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Old 01-19-2009, 04:56 PM
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Talk about random thoughts....

Well, when discussing current government corruption, I'd say the origins of said government, and it's intentions, are valid.
Are you sure those are random thoughts? It seems more like a collection of random words.

What are you talking about? Does it relate to this thread?

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Old 01-19-2009, 05:11 PM
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Are you sure those are random thoughts? It seems more like a collection of random words.

What are you talking about? Does it relate to this thread?
Hey, they're yours. Call them what you will.

It should be evident, and yes, I believe so.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:09 PM
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To each his own, but I don't understand your objection, at all.
You don't understand my objection? I don't how to make my objection any more plain.

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You don't understand my objection? I don't how to make my objection any more plain.

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I understand your objection. I should have said that I don't know why you object to the public spectacle.
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In fact, the more I think about it, Botnst, the more I think you have it completely backwards. The public "spectacle", as you call it, was one of the best things about yesterday's concert. We had a similar public spectacle about a week or two before the election when Obama showed up in our town and drew a crowd of 30,000 or so with almost no publicity at all. There are people around here whose faces brighten just at the mention of that day. It was a very positive event

You say that we are spending like drunken sailers. What did yesterday's events cost the taxpayers? What economic benefits flowed from yesterday's events? I have no idea of the answer to either question.
I am sure millions of people loved every moment of it. So what?

To me it is a complete waste of taxpayers' money.

Like a marriage, they could handle the contract in a courthouse window with a couple of witnesses. Spend the saved money of crippled children of blind, unwed minority mothers.
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...It should be evident...
My point exactly. Your meaning should be evident. Too bad it's not.
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I am sure millions of people loved every moment of it. So what?

To me it is a complete waste of taxpayers' money.

Like a marriage, they could handle the contract in a courthouse window with a couple of witnesses. Spend the saved money of crippled children of blind, unwed minority mothers.
Do you oppose all public celebrations that cost taxpayer money?

And how much money did this concert cost us?
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:54 PM
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Private property rights are one of the cornerstones of America, for both moral and pragmatic reasons, but sometimes things get out of whack. We need people like Pete Seeger to remind us that not everybody has it as easy as we do. America takes all kinds of folks.
The infatuation with wealth as skewed much common sense in America, IMO. I saw a session of Congress in which several banking high mucky mucks were spinning the crisis to reflect well on them (as it became obvious a few weeks after). I found their lies unpersuasive.

Some of these people have come to see it as their birthright to have a 6 to 7 figure annual income for life and a net worth in the 8 to 9 figures. Some people in the world legitimately earn that kind of money but there's a large body, IMO, trying to contrive that sort of income from smoke and mirrors. Too many have "succeeded," at least in the short run.

The die-hard free marketeers will tell us "yes, but free enterprise corrects itself, those people will be put out of business." And if a years long depression results, oh well, apparently.

This is a bit like saying that the oceans will correct man's overfishing by depriving mankind of food long enough to bring the supply and demand into order. And the seas will recover their good health in a mere 5 to 10 thousand years. I mean who knows how long recovery will take but the more we bludgeon it until the gravy/fish oil train runs out, the longer it will take.

Mitigating damage in both areas now will require the dreaded regulation.
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I am sure millions of people loved every moment of it. So what?

To me it is a complete waste of taxpayers' money.

Like a marriage, they could handle the contract in a courthouse window with a couple of witnesses. Spend the saved money of crippled children of blind, unwed minority mothers.
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Do you oppose all public celebrations that cost taxpayer money?

And how much money did this concert cost us?
Pretty much all spectacle at taxpayer expense is frivolous self-adulation of pompous politicians. I'd rather not pay the tax that pays for the frivolity. If anybody is going to be frivolous on my dime let it be me!
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Funny you didn't use that Jesus quote under the previous administration!

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