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Old 10-11-2010, 12:21 PM
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My car has always had ATF in it, no leaks.

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Old 10-11-2010, 12:27 PM
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Almost all 124 cars I see have worn PS hoses...one of mine was weeping so I replaced both. NO more leaks!

As another user said, just use the MB stuff.
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Old 10-11-2010, 12:29 PM
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As another user said, just use the MB stuff.
MB doesn't recommend the same "stuff" for all models.

Why not just use the "stuff" that MB recommends?
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Old 10-11-2010, 01:26 PM
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Does ATF cause transmission seals to leak?

My power steering system has been using ATF for 27 years. Works fine.
There are two mineral-based fluids that are extremely flexible and can't hurt the PS system, because they often replace Dexron III when not available:

LHM is one, found usually only in Europe or Canada.

Kendall Hyken Glacial Blue is the other, it's a superviscous, highly flame resistant hd used in aircraft valve bodies and landing gear. It's used because it's viscous up to 300 degrees and down to -80 F.

Because it is so much in demand, it's pretty cheap: 5.00 a gallon. I buy it in eight-gallon tubs because it's compatible with all mineral-fluid based Euro systems, especially Rolls, Bentley Audi and Citroen. I have to assume it would work in all older models of MB because it is a listed substitute for Dexron III.

All my hydropneumatic suspension cars use that and/or LHM.
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Old 10-11-2010, 02:19 PM
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I think the stuff I'm using is Valvoline. It has stuff in it to stop leaks, and the stuff really works. I heard if you get the stuff that simply puffs the seals up, that's really bad because it's a temporary fix, and one day, it fails and leaves you in a bad situation.

The stuff I have sort of rejuvenates the rubber, as opposed to just puffing it up.
You're pretty much saying the same thing two ways Jeff.

The "rejuvenating" is essentially solvents/aromatics softening the seals, too much I guess would be considered "puffing it up".

Most all oils & hydraulic fluids are engineered to have specific seal-swell properties, those that are listed as "seal reconditioning" or stop-leak usually just have more swell effect from the additive package.
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:21 PM
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MB doesn't recommend the same "stuff" for all models.

Why not just use the "stuff" that MB recommends?
I believe all MBs from mid 2000s on up uses synthetic Pentosin CHF 11s or equivalent (Mb p/n BQ 1320001) power steering fluid.

Older models with rack-and-pinion steering gear and older models equipped with re-circulating ball steering gear box use MB power steering fluid MB p/n BQ 1460001 (typical power steering fluid) or Dexron III ATF.





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