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11-20-2003, 11:05 PM
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HELP! Where is the fuel pump relay located???
My 96' S420 is not getting fuel. I checked the voltage by turning the motor over at the fuel pump and getting 10.5 volts. Should be getting at least 12.0, right? I have to assume the relay is going bad, HUH??? Any input will be greatly appriciated as it will have to be towed.
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11-21-2003, 08:02 AM
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In the trunk just in front of the rear fuse box, behind the trunk liner. Should be all by itself.
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11-21-2003, 12:26 PM
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What you need to remember is that the voltage at the pump should only be a few tenths of a volt less than BATTERY voltage and this will not be 12v while cranking. Battery voltage at cranking is acceptable to be as low as 9.6v, 10.5v is very acceptable.
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11-21-2003, 01:29 PM
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Fuel Pump Problem
So if the voltage of 10.5 at the pump cranking the engine over is OK, would you think the pump is dead?
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11-21-2003, 01:44 PM
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The fuel pump is located under the car, in the rear, on the passenger side -under the vehicle in front of rear suspension.
If you will turn the ignition key to the on position, (not starting the car) you will hear a humming nose coming from the fuel pump - if the pump is operating. If you dont' hear a humming noise, I would suspect the pump has quit. Sometimes you can "knock" on the pump to get it stated again.
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11-21-2003, 01:58 PM
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The pump only hums for a couple of seconds to prime as you turn the key on, and hums fully when the engine cranks when it is working properly.
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11-21-2003, 02:16 PM
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Approx 5000 miles ago.
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11-21-2003, 02:23 PM
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You mentioned that you suspect your problem is fuel related. Can you give more detail on what symptoms the car is experiencing? Do you have random stalling? Does the problem only occur when the engine is hot or cold? Is the car only idling rough? Does the problem get better when you press the gas peddle?
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11-21-2003, 02:24 PM
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Yes, no fuel pressure.
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11-21-2003, 02:27 PM
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Driving down the road a few days ago, come to a stop sign & she stalls. Cranks up go and every few miles sputters & lacks power. Drove home, next day cranked up then dies and nothing since. Checked the fuel rail cranking the motor over and no fuel.
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#14
11-21-2003, 02:47 PM
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If you have fuel, you might by pass the pump relay and watch how the pump functions; best with a gauge on the fuel rail.
If its not the pump it would then have to be a restriction at the outlet screen of the tank. You can verify flow by removing the line at the pump inlet. Fuel should gush out from gravity feed - BE CAREFULL!
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11-21-2003, 02:51 PM
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You can check fuel delivery by unhooking the return line place it in a container, and run the pump for 30 -40 seconds by removing the fuel pump relay and jumping pins 7 & 8. You should get about 1 liter of fuel.
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