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Old 06-12-2003, 07:17 PM
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The 91's vin number is: WDBEA30D7MB315572

It is available now but I will try and mesure for you and if possible send you a photo.

The front section with the "molding" does require a bit of snugging up against the front lower section spoiler.

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Old 06-12-2003, 07:18 PM
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With that VIN our cars should take the same part according to the CD. Any measurements would be great!

I just measured mine... the distance on my car from front to middle holes is 50cm on both driver and passenger side. The distance on the part I received is 52cm.

The distance between the front two holes is 37cm and between the two middle holes is 48cm, both of which match the part.

So it's fine except for being 2cm too long.


Rear holes are not applicable to the part I have, but for comparison... the distance between middle and rear holes on my car is 42cm (drivers side) and 41cm (passenger side).

The distance between the two rear holes is 56cm.

My car doesn't have any screw anchors in the rear two holes, so I don't know if those holes were never used or if the anchors fell out at some point.
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Old 06-12-2003, 08:19 PM
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On a picture might make more sense... a part with these distances (cm) between holes is what I need for my car:


EDIT: Rear measurements are wrong... should be 31 and 32, not 41 and 42.
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Old 06-22-2003, 10:55 AM
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Well, Phil at PartsShop ran my VIN# past the dealer. The dealer confirmed that my part is correct, and said the front mounts were adjustable.

Something is amiss, because here is a photo of one of my front mounting brackets... there are two separate holes (circled in photo) to choose from to mount a screw anchor in, but that's a left-right adjustment, not front-back.

There is no way to adjust front-back unless your adjustment tool is a sledgehammer. The bracket is welded to the bumper frame. I considered the possibility that my bumper or just the brackets had been mashed rearward 2 cm in my car's previous life, but there are no signs that I can see of that, and if that were the case then I don't see how the bracket would align where it's attached to the radiator (though the radiator was replaced by the previous owner).

haasman, did you have a chance to take any measurements on your car, or does anyone else have an idea what's wrong here?
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Old 06-26-2003, 03:19 PM
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Still waiting to hear back from Phil/Partshop/MB dealer... thought I'd bump this to the top in a shameless attempt to get Haasman to measure his part for me.
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Old 06-26-2003, 03:43 PM
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Hey! Watch it! This is a family site...

First nudity, now this!
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Old 06-26-2003, 04:45 PM
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I just realized that my car is missing its cover!! There are still pieces of the cover under mu car, the previous owner must have sacrificed it. Now I see the reason why it is so easy to work under my cars engine, there no cover!!

Well at least my engine stays cooler!
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Old 06-26-2003, 05:45 PM
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Sorry for some reason I didn't subscribe ..... never the less here are the crude measurements for the 300E's pan. I had to do this quickly on my back in the 100F sunlight-

Front- mounting hole to mounting hole= 14.5"

Back- mounting hole to mounting hole= 19"

Front to back- mounting hole to mounting hole= 21.5"

The pan doesn't have the rear section so only front and rear mounting holes and bolts.

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Old 06-29-2003, 11:54 PM
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LOL, csnow. :p

Thanks haasman! That's interesting... converting your measurements to cm it sounds like you have the same side-side as me, but your front-back is 54-55 cm to my 50 cm. And the part I received is 52 cm. So I don't have a winner either way.

Still waiting to hear back from Phil at PartsShop, I'll e-mail him again tomorrow.
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For a minute there, I thought no one got my joke.
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Old 08-06-2003, 03:06 PM
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At long last... resolution to the saga.

Phil had the MB dealer send me a replacement "wrong" part, one for a later model, part 124 524 15 30. It is a 6-hole part as shown.

This part fit MUCH better, the middle and rear holes fit perfectly, and the front edge of the part fit behind the lower bumper cover (unlike previously), but the front holes STILL did not line up.

A side note: This part (unlike the previous) did not come with the rubber gasket attached. Luckily I had ordered the gasket separately before.
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Old 08-06-2003, 03:10 PM
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After much deliberation about what to do about the front holes from ignoring it (the middle screws probably would keep it from popping out) to drilling/tapping the mounting bracket for new screws (which I didn't want to do because then requires multiple tools to remove the cover)... I finally decided to do it "right" and relocate the anchor holes.

I fashioned little brackets to hold mounting anchors, and screwed the brackets onto existing mounting anchors... see photo.

The brackets were mounted with some other sheet metal screws and the official MB screws are what is accessible from outside. I also had to drill and paint relief holes in the original mounting brackets to allow the MB screw to poke through.
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Old 08-06-2003, 03:10 PM
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Ahh... clothed at last.

By the way, I have noticed absolutely no difference in engine or wind noise, doh!

But presumably there is some MPG improvement from better aerodynamics. Which should pay off in a couple decades.

And in the meantime I feel more complete.
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Old 01-31-2004, 10:17 PM
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Mine fell off tonight!

As i was driving home, I heard a scraping of plastic sound and looked underneath the front end. Sure enough, the engine cover was dangling off. It still so cold around here, I put my 94 E320 in the garage. I'll take it off tomorrow...damn, just another thing to mess with in this cold.
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Mine is gone too!!!

After my last service I found mine was missing too. I confronted the shop and they denied removing it at this service but I know that they did it as it was there before because I had removed it and cleaned it. No one else has touched the car. They have lost a customer over it for sure. I will never deal with them again. I can't believe that they think they have to right to decide to remove something like that.

That shop is EuroImports in Scottsdale AZ. Just a warning to those in the Phoenix area.

NEVER WILL I USE THEM AGAIN!!!!!

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