late 90 early 2000 ML 320 any good - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

deportes · #1 12-31-2019, 08:54 AM

Hi, My son has an early 2000 BMW x3 and it has nothing but problems, transmission. transfer case. Is the early 2000's ML 320 any good. I have been an MB owner forever so I am trying to talk him into getting a well maintained used ML 320.
Thanks.

tjts1 · #2 12-31-2019, 11:37 AM

No.

Diseasel300 · #3 12-31-2019, 12:01 PM

The first gen ML's rightfully earned the nickname "Alabama Trash Can". Make of that what you will regarding their build quality.

party · #4 12-31-2019, 12:22 PM

Motor and trans are very reliable if maintained. Build quality is about on par with a W202, maybe a little lower quality materials. Take from what what you will. I was never a fan of the W163, but I bought a cheap, clean ML320 from a friend earlier this year when I needed a utility vehicle after I lost my pickup. It's been very good and has grown on me, but I still think it looks like an overgrown Ford Aspire.

engatwork · #5 12-31-2019, 05:06 PM

Suggest a good, used GLK that has been properly maintained if you can find one.

Jorn · #6 12-31-2019, 06:38 PM

My sister had a 2000 ML 500 and it was a nightmare.

mrdjsk · #7 12-31-2019, 10:48 PM

My 98 ML320 with 361K is a tank. Original motor and trans. No leaks, no smoke, no oil consumption. Mobil One all the way. No rust. All original. If you can find one that’s been loved, I highly recommend it. Most were used up and discarded.

paul roberts · #8 12-31-2019, 11:31 PM

I've seen enough of the 163s go past 300k with just the occasional maintenance items like starters, water pumps alternators, etc. to feel confident enough to debunk the myth that they're a total trash can. I work on 164s and 166s on a daily basis. From what I see go in and out of my shop doors, my customers that have the 166s and 164s annually spend significantly more on theirs than the people keeping their 163s on the road. Hell, I have an old 99 ml320 with almost 250k that's part of our fleet of four that I beat on and don't really even take care of anymore that's a solid runner. Besides regular maintenance, it hasn't cost me a dime in repairs in the last 7 or 8 years. Also, IMO, that m112 is a beast. I've never had to remove a cylinder head or do any major engine repairs on a properly maintained one. Although mine still rides nice and feels tight, the downside is, you have to live with the rattles that come with a lot of the 163s.

duxthe1 · #9 01-01-2020, 11:13 AM

You couldn't give me one... for a multitude of reasons.

tjts1 · #10 01-01-2020, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by paul roberts

Also, IMO, that m112 is a beast. I've never had to remove a cylinder head or do any major engine repairs on a properly maintained one.

Literally the only German made component in the 163.

deportes · #11 01-02-2020, 08:20 AM

Thanks for your replies, I knew a guy at work that had a 98 ml320 he couldn't kill. he changed struts and that was it. 200k miles. It appears from your posts that the idea would be to find a 98/99 ml 320 that has been maintained. Thanks.

Hirnbeiss · #12 01-03-2020, 06:28 AM

They may not die, kind of like old Dodge minivans, but do you really want one? When I sent my ‘02 ML500 on its way 4 years ago, it was still in good shape but felt seriously long in the tooth. I never ended up towing with it, so nothing justified its gas guzzling nature anymore.

deportes · #13 01-03-2020, 11:08 AM

Thanks. Good point. They are getting long on the tooth. The problem is that money is tight and I am not sure of the newer vehicles. Toyotas are expensive and I have friends that had problems with them. What is the best affordable used car. I like Mercedes tuffness. My son crashed a 1998 230 kompressor on the freeway and someone hit him as he was trying to get out of the car. He had a scratch.

tjts1 · #14 01-03-2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by deportes

Thanks. Good point. They are getting long on the tooth. The problem is that money is tight and I am not sure of the newer vehicles. Toyotas are expensive and I have friends that had problems with them. What is the best affordable used car. I like Mercedes tuffness. My son crashed a 1998 230 kompressor on the freeway and someone hit him as he was trying to get out of the car. He had a scratch.

Pre facelift w211 gasser with m112 or m113 engine.

deportes · #15 01-03-2020, 09:39 PM

Thanks. I like the body style. What year did they facelifted it. Which engine is the one that has the.balance stuff go bad.