And the truss would be placed right there 'on top of the wall plate' ( which is on top of the column) as opposed to hanging on the side of it as it appears to be at the Lodge at Sunspot restaurant. Please show us your drawing of the connection you imagine is used at the Lodge at Sunspot restaurant.



I wouldn't be surprised if every vertical is steel clad in decorative wood. Look in the upper left. The ceiling doesn't seem to be resting on the logs. Hanging from firing under the rafters I imagine. Those vertical logs are oddly grown. A full half on the outside and another full half on the inside ... and what about the wall thickness? What does a horizontal cross section of those logs look like? (==)



Check the upper right in this photo for the connections

Check out that last photo right over 'sunspot' on the hood. They forgot to put a decorative column for that truss end Not to mention it looks like the wall boards go behind it.

Time to call a vote. Who thinks this is structural timber framing carrying the load v who thinks this is largely decorative. I can see it playing a purlin role.

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Jiminy - I just realized that the Sunspot pic is from Winter Park. That is the bldg that I asked about.

And the jury is still out.

And what was it about your observations that sparked this fine thread? Did you suspect it was not structural? Did it look off? Could you see an air gap between the timber ends and the walls?

The truss that dives into the chimney is apparently supported by the stonework. The beams are cut off flat where they intersect so the internal connectors are not seen. The flat boards of the ceiling look unsupported but are not. This is a truly stunning construction with a very heavy cost to build. I believe it is a true system.

In the olden days t hey just used very large beams and pegged the ends with round wood fasteners. My best guess is this is located in a very heavy snow area and actually needed all that heavy construction to support the weight. It has been there a good while though and is still standing.

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Heavy snow is correct. This is Winter Park, CO and I used to ski there in the 70's. Today it is unrecognizable to me. We actually used rope lifts with a knot that you held between the legs to get to the top; if your skis got out of the burrowed out tracks, you got dumped.

Since I have worked weekends at Habitat for Humanity for 28 years, I am always interested in construction. When I saw this I assumed there were steel beams inside the wood poles. Had no idea there would be so much interest.

There is no chimney, nor any stonework seen under the area in question. There is no chimney visible on photos of the exterior and roof. 1992 isn't exactly the olden days. There might be some Ludwig Mies van der Rohe hidden under wood cladding.

I agree 1992 is not back in the day. There are several places where stone is used a lot in this building. I can't prove it is structural but it appears to be so to me. There are at least three places where stone is a big element.

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We all see stone. But you would have to be stoned to think it is holding up the woodwork in question.

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Now, kind sir. Get your pencil moving and draw us the structure.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.