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Txjake · #**1201** 07-31-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

Perhaps not in the strictest genetic sense but I am pretty sure were he to have walked into a dinner in 1950 he would have been shown the back door very quickly. That is close enough for me.

so the mores and & beliefs of part of the country some 63 years ago matter to you?

Jorn · #**1202** 07-31-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower

LOL- See how your logic is illogical? "watch this with an open mind"- now if the preacher was white you would have called him a racist and turned it off so much more quickly than you did. THEN I would have had to say "watch this with an open mind". If the preacher is black your mind is much more open already- because of your preconceived ideas of race. You gotta get up a whole lot earlier in the morning if you want to stay abreast, Jorn.
How many black males have been killed by other black males in the last year? It's closer to 10K than 5K. Where's the marches for that? Where's your outrage there? Trayvon was a wanna be gang member. His path is followed by thousands every year who are murdered. Many many more folks in the same plight as Trayvon do not wish to become gang members. Many many more take personal responsibility and become contributing members of society. The people who choose the gangster route need to recognize that society will not tolerate behavior and actions which they choose. The preacher said that; and said that the path TM was on will lead to downfall- why are you disgusted by that?

First of all I don't call anyone a racist, I don't give a **** if the preacher is white or black but apparently for you it makes a difference.

I'm disgusted by it because thousands if not millions of teen boys act like Trayvon: smoke a little pot, act tough and put their hands in the cookie jar. But because he's black he's on his way to become a gang banger...

Jorn · #**1203** 07-31-2013, 02:25 PM

Huntington Beach white riot breaks out after US Open of Surfing.

Honus · #**1204** 07-31-2013, 03:03 PM

A great piece of satire right here: When will moderate whites condemn dangerous White Culture? - Video on NBCNews.com

This is not bad, either: Daily Kos: A proposal for profiling

I used to take offense at being called a leftie, but the right is getting far enough out there that I am starting to like it.

MS Fowler · #**1205** 07-31-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Honus

Well, no kidding.That's true, but is woefully incomplete. I don't vote for Democrats because they support more government programs. I vote for them because they usually are much better stewards than the clowns put up for election by the GOP. Take Virginia as an example. Since at least as far back as the early 1900s, Virginia always was (and is again) at the top of the list of well managed states. We have a strong pay-as-you go tradition. Our bond ratings never used to come up for discussion. Everyone just assumed that we got the highest ratings there are. Then, the GOP abandoned any pretense of conservative governance, deciding instead to go for right-wing bomb throwing and gimmicks. In the 1990s, we elected two of this new type of Republican to be our governor - George Allen (1994-1997) and Jim "No Car Tax" Gilmore (1998-2001). Allen went on a spending spree but failed to raise revenue to match his spending. Gilmore, probably the worst governor in Virginia's history, was the ultimate gimmick governor. He was so bad on fiscal matters that even his own party opposed him. He left to his successor, Democrat Mark Warner, the largest budget shortfall in the history of Virginia. Thankfully, Mark Warner was one of the best governors we ever had. He worked with the GOP-dominated General Assembly to get things back on track. He was followed in the Governorship by an even more conservative fiscal manager, Democrat Tim Kaine. Compare Allen/Gilmore to Warner/Kaine and you will see an example of why people prefer Democrats on fiscal matters.

I don't why the GOP is bad at running the government, but it probably has something to do with their hatred for it.

Good for you.

I live in Maryland--the "Free State" where everything, including the rain is taxed. This is probably the worst managed state in the union, and vying for highest taxed. If it weren't for the proximity to the federal teat, we'd probably be among the poorest.

Just saying that as an illustration that ANY single-party government is inherently corrupt and inefficient. No party is morally superior.

Botnst · #**1206** 07-31-2013, 06:46 PM

Life is so much simpler if we view everybody as falling into one of two brackets.

It makes us rah-rah and vigorously defend one side and ignore and abuse the other. There is no effort for commonality necessary in a world seen binary.

Honus · #**1207** 07-31-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Life is so much simpler if we view everybody as falling into one of two brackets.

It makes us rah-rah and vigorously defend one side and ignore and abuse the other. There is no effort for commonality necessary in a world seen binary.

Since MS Fowler and I are the only ones talking about party politics, I'm guessing that your comment pertains to either or both of our comments. If I am incorrect, then I apologize for the misunderstanding.

Did either of us suggest that everybody falls into one of two brackets? I never said that, nor do I believe it. I reject the modern GOP because it rejects my understanding of American culture and democracy. There is no rah-rah to it.

Honus · #**1208** 07-31-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

...No party is morally superior.

Superior to what?

Botnst · #**1209** 07-31-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Honus

Since MS Fowler and I are the only ones talking about party politics, I'm guessing that your comment pertains to either or both of our comments. If I am incorrect, then I apologize for the misunderstanding.

Did either of us suggest that everybody falls into one of two brackets? I never said that, nor do I believe it. I reject the modern GOP because it rejects my understanding of American culture and democracy. There is no rah-rah to it.

Had I wished to make a comment on specific posts I would have been specific.

P.C. · #**1210** 07-31-2013, 08:12 PM

Still above the law...George Zimmerman stopped for speeding near Dallas, released with a warning | Fox News

Dubyagee · #**1211** 07-31-2013, 08:20 PM

And above ground.

MS Fowler · #**1212** 07-31-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Honus

Superior to what?

to anything, but specifically each other.

t walgamuth · #**1213** 07-31-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubyagee

And above ground.

Well, for now. Next time he decides to confront someone they may be more prepared for him.

Honus · #**1214** 07-31-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

to anything, but specifically each other.

They aren't superior to anything? Not even, say, the KKK?

As for whether the GOP is morally superior to the Democrats, or vice versa, we will have to agree to disagree. Neither party is anything to write home about, but the GOP has really gone off the rails.

Honus · #**1215** 07-31-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower

Here's one very outraged black man speaking about TM. Watch the clip with an open mind.

He's a skilled public speaker, but his advocacy is weakened by exaggerations and leaps of logic. Why did he say that Trayvon's mother put him out on the street? She sent him to be with his father. That is far from being put out on the street. He also says that people are only outraged about the death of this 17-year-old "thug" because he was black. That strikes me as ridiculous. He thinks that the mother of a white boy who suffered Trayvon's fate would not be outraged? Or that the public wouldn't be outraged? Preposterous.

Here is the Bible passage cited in the title of the clip and which apparently is the minister's authority for his talk:

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18 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, 19 then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. 20 And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear.

Deuteronomy 21 NKJV - The Law Concerning Unsolved Murder - Bible Gateway

What a hateful person that minister is to judge Trayvon Martin in that fashion. It's outrageous. He also had a message for parents. That message has merit, but he hid it in the middle of a bunch of hateful crap.