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View Poll Results: Vertical or horizontal?
vertical 2 22.22%
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:00 PM
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Super important topic: Door knob lever

So, on the inside knob of most lock sets there is a little knob in the middle that lets you lock it. It can be in either the horizontal or vertical position. For all the lock sets I have, and have ever had (as far as I remember), vertical is unlocked and horizontal is locked.

HOWEVER, I just bought one at Lowes and it is the opposite, and cannot be changed. I went to Home depot and theirs are the same, unless I buy the Schlague for a lot more money.

So the question is: Which position is "locked" on your door knob?

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Old 12-08-2012, 04:27 PM
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Rental house: horizontal is locked
My condo: vertical is both, since the lock rotates 180 degrees between locked and unlocked positions.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:19 PM
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I have a passage set plus a deadbolt on my exterior doors, so no little lever at all. I find the knoblocks don't hold up all that well so prefer the passage latch plus deadbolt.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:48 PM
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Vertical is locked on all the doors at my place.
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:03 PM
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Never saw one like that...
Installed many dozens of door handles....

I'm with Tom in that all exterior doors get deadbolts, and fer darn sure those twist knobs should be horizontal for locked.

You sure you can't finagle the pieces to allow for proper construction?
Remove the little bar, twist stuff around and put back together?

Of course, where I work, every locking door has a lever that is aligned vertically, and for some inexplicable reason, the interior latch turns away from the jamb to lock, and towards it to unlock... I always assumed that it was just the idiots in the door division of engineering...
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:56 PM
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My dead bolt lever points toward the jamb when it is shoved into the jamb (locked) and away when unlocked so you can tell from 20' away.

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Old 12-08-2012, 09:59 PM
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My dead bolt lever points toward the jamb when it is shoved into the jamb (locked) and away when unlocked so you can tell from 20' away.

handy.
Exactly. Visual confirmation can save thousands of unnecessary steps over the lifetime of the lockset.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:18 AM
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Slot direction

Vertical is Occidental
Horizontal is Asian
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:52 AM
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All exterior doors are old U.S. made deadbolts. All are horizontal when locked. Interior doors don't lock except our bedroom, which has an old forged hand sliding deal on it we never use.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:55 AM
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He's not talking deadbolts, he's talking locking doorknobs. Vertical is locked in our house.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:21 AM
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:09 AM
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Vertical is Occidental
Horizontal is Asian
Shouldn't Asian be a 45-degree angle? :p
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:36 AM
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I have for years used only Schlage locksets on all of our properties, all keyed to a master, and as indicated above, the lever is horizontal in the locked position. Kwickset, a common, cheapo brand sold locally is the opposite, as many of the less expensive off brands sold by Lowes and Home Depot seem to be. Can't understand how it would be but perhaps it's cheaper to manufacture them that way, or maybe the cheapo guys just don't give a hoot.
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:29 PM
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All mine are Kwickset, but they still go vertical to lock. My building was built in 1972, and I may still have the original doorknobs.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:00 PM
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You sure you can't finagle the pieces to allow for proper construction?
Remove the little bar, twist stuff around and put back together?
The main knob turns a square shaft, and the little locking knob turns a flat "tailpiece" that is inside of that. The flat piece goes into a slot on the back side of the little knob. They could have easily made that an "X" shape so that you had your choice of vertical or horizontal, but they didn't. I solved the problem by putting the protruding tailpiece in a bench vice and twisting it 90 degrees. Done and done.

It was interesting that both Lowes and Home Depot sell an identical knock off of Kwikset. Home Depot's is called Defiance and Lowes is called Lighthouse I think. They are the same except the Lowes one is stamped "Made in China" and the Home Depot on stamped "Made in Taiwan". They both are locked vertical. The odd thing is I have a Defiance knob lock that I got at Home Depot about 10 years ago and it locks horizontal. Oh well.

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