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Sway Bar Link (Bolt) Nut size?
As I was examining the front end for the source of added noise - I found the nut from the large bolt on the passenger side sway bar link missing! The bolt seems secure in there, so what I need is the size of nut. I'm 3 hours from the nearest dealer, so will an aftermarket bolt do - NAPA, Carquest is who we have here.
I do have the updated links - they were put on under warranty (about 55k mile agao) - this is my 98 ML320. Thanks!
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"Clunk" after replacing nut
After replacing the missing nut with a new one from MB, I now have a "clunk" upon going over small bumps - manhole cover, driveway approaches - mainly with the wheels turned. Not noticing it as much when straight. So,
Did I not torque the bolt / nut down enough so ever so little play could cause this? Do these bolts have a spot about an inch from the end that is NOT threaded, but smooth? This is the way my existing bolt looks.
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Check this link it may be helpful.
Clunk in the front? |
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Ron - yes, I've read this thread before posting, and have had the new style links/brackets for some time now as I mentioned. Just now after replacing the nut that was missing (vibrated off?), comes this new noise.
Perhaps a coincidence that soemthing else is wrong now, a ball joint? I need some guidance here because I am not sure how to isolate the source of this noise - the brack "should" be OK since it's the new style and I've replaced the nut now. I read where someone oiled the ball joint - not sure where exactly those are - so any guidance on tracking this new issue down is appreciated.
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I'd check the ball joints like you mentioned and also make sure it's not coming from a front shock. Since you did the new links my guess and it's purely a guess is a worn ball joint. Would the noise possibly be coming form the passenger side of vehicle, sometimes the ball joints on that side go first.
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It does seem to be the passenger side - is it dangerous or bad for the car to drive with a bad ball joint? I just need to figure out much time I have to diagnose it - thanks.
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What Joint is this?
Turns out the small ball joint on the front driver side - the one towards the back of the car from the upper and lower - is busted. What is this called? it appears it would be easier than the other ball joints to replace - thoughts?
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No sure what part you mean, I have a diagram of front suspension but it's to large for me to post. PM me your email address and I send it.
ron Edited: I think there are only two ball joints on each side of the front, the bottom, hard to get out and the top which on other MB cars was sold as a unit with what was called the upper control arm. In other words you just replaced the whole upper control arm. Diagram can be viewed here: http://www.msnusers.com/mkorrmm3g8rpsh6mhio79l4bn7/Documents/ml%20suspen.jpg Last edited by Ron in SC; 09-07-2005 at 05:02 PM. |
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It turns out it is the TIE ROD END, which is a single piece including the small ball joint I mentioned that's broken open.
So now, anyone with special instructions to install this part? Thanks Ron!
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To remove take of nut and hit it with an air hammer with a tie rod end separator on it. With a strong air hammer one with a decent lenght stroke each side will pop right off. Wear safely googles. I would also replace the other tie rod assembley, there are cheap and since it's being aligned it's a good time to do it too. MB probably makes a special press to press the tie rod end out but I would not mess with that since you'll be throwing out the old assemblies anyway. |
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Hey Ron - first, I dont have an air hammer, but could rent one if really necessary, you think? The tie rod end separator - you mean just wedge something in there?
Second - what about the nut that's on the other side of the tie rod connected to the steering shaft - do I loosen that first before banging on the wheel end?
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Here are instructions for removal of inner and outer tire rod assemblies.
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Thanks Ron! I'll do my best.
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Alignment after repair question
With the new tie rod end in, there's a lot of play in the steering wheel - hoping it is not too much to drive to the shop for alignment.
More disturbing is that I still hear a clunk that I thought was the tie rod end -this is what first started last week after I replaced the nut on the passenger side sway bar link - is it possible that the nut is not torqued enough and could cause a clunk. Any ideas appreciated!
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