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Old 01-13-2006, 09:02 PM
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Also get yourself a copy of the latest MERCEDES ENTHUSIAST magazine at your local magazine specialist. The whole magazine positively gushes about the W126 and rightlyfully so I might add. Even though i don't have one this was the mercedes model that made me fall in love with the brand.
Me too. After I build a new garage I'd like to own an SDL.

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Old 01-14-2006, 02:15 AM
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I recently saw a nice w126 in the car for sale section.
This got me thinking about these cars which I think are perhaps the best big car designs by MB and about what other members of the forum think about these cars.

1. with all the different engine sizes, which is the best?

2. SEL or SE?

3. best interior/exterior colour combination?

4. their strong and weak points- mechanically (what goes wrong/what stays right) and aesthetically?

5. how good arethe V8's in these cars? (their common failings etc)
2. SD

3. White ext., dark brown interior



4. I like the front end and general responsiveness especially well. I like the roominess, specially after 3 years of either driving my BMW 325i or a Chev van. The beemer's a hot little car but claustrophobic compared to my shiny white w126.
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Old 01-19-2006, 03:49 PM
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The W126

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Originally Posted by scargo70
I recently saw a nice w126 in the car for sale section.
This got me thinking about these cars which I think are perhaps the best big car designs by MB and about what other members of the forum think about these cars.

1. with all the different engine sizes, which is the best?

2. SEL or SE?

3. best interior/exterior colour combination?

4. their strong and weak points- mechanically (what goes wrong/what stays right) and aesthetically?

5. how good are the V8's in these cars? (their common failings etc)
A "nice" "126" is sort of redundant. That is, of course, if the car has been cared for.

The 560 and 500 engines are powerful; the 420 only slightly less so (and it gave me 17 mpg combined in New Orleans traffic/highway driving). The 300 might be the best compromise.

To me, the best color combo is smoke silver/beige. Very elegant. Black and dark blue look superb when they're clean. But my anthracite (medium metallic grey) over light grey leather had the look of a banker's car.

The V-8s are tough, as long as you change the oil regularly and have the timing chain and other maintenance done. My 420 was totalled in 2004 with 198,000 miles on it, 60K of them mine. A month before, my regular mechanic had had to replace the oil pan (a crack caused by a road obstruction was causing a leak), and he said the internals of the engine were clean as the proverbial whistle.

The W126 rides like no other car of its day. I miss mine.
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Old 01-29-2006, 12:46 PM
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I love the ride and size of the SEL. I'm very comfortable with the size although some might be intimidated by it being nearly as long as a Suburban (have one of those too).

I still want an SDL and would love to one day have an SEC, preferably a 560. Mileage really isn't that bad with the 560, I see 14 in town if I drive easy and routinely break 20 on extended highway trips which ain't too shabby for a big land yacht.
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Old 01-29-2006, 08:24 PM
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W126

I firmly believe that the 86-91 S class Mercedes is the PEAK of Mercedes mechanical quality. I sold an 86 560SEL at 200K miles and currently own a 91 300SE with 145K miles.
1. Stick with a 420 or 300. The 560 has problems with the rear hyd suspension. Very expensive to fix and hard ride quality.
2. 86 has bad camshafts. Will fail at 100k miles even with regular oil changes. (560 engine)
3. R-12 A-C on all models, will be to be change to 134. My compressor went to 175K miles on the 560. My 300SE is still original and working at 145K .
4. The sunroof can be a problem on all models if not lubricated with special MBZ grease in the slide block area.
5. Personally I do not think the extra room in an SEL is that big a deal.
6. The 300 is a strait six that does NOT have a lot of power. But it gets GREAT gas mileage for a big car, plus a valve job is MUCH cheaper on a strait six vs a V-8.

Other than the minor window regulator and motor problems, maybe a idle control motor, and rusted exhaust pipe/rear muffler, these the FINE cars that can easily go to 200K miles, a whole lot cheaper the the new models will .

Good luck, I personally like white exterior. Also, the leather on the front driver seat bolster will wear. In addition, the leather on top of the rear seat back will dry out from sun.
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Old 01-30-2006, 08:27 PM
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I disagree on the rear suspension. It isn't all the difficult to diagnose and definitely not overly expensive to fiv UNLESS the rear struct are shot, then it is very expensive. The routine rear suspension repair costs about $200 for past plus about $30 worth of fluid to correct. Majority of the time it is simply the accumulators have gone bad, they cost about $100 apiece, two required. When everything is functioning correctly the hydraulic suspension is unbelievably smooth.

The '86's did have a bad batch of cams, seemed the harden layer of the lobes wore through quicker than should have. But that was limited to a certain series of part numbers (numbers posted somewhere here on these forums by stevebfl). Mine lasted nearly 200K miles before requiring replacement.

I would also stick strictly with R-12 rather than converting to R-134. The R-12 system kicks butt, R-12 is still available and not exhorbantly expensive. Costs more than R-134, but well worth it. A conversion to R-134 requires extensive labor to be done correctly, changing o-rings, flushing and changing oil, and it is very likely the compressor will take a dump within a couple years at best (at least according to some of the conversions I read about). It was designed for R-12 so I keep it that way, but to each his (or her) own.
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Old 05-03-2006, 04:29 AM
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I disagree on the rear suspension. It isn't all the difficult to diagnose and definitely not overly expensive to fiv UNLESS the rear struct are shot, then it is very expensive. The routine rear suspension repair costs about $200 for past plus about $30 worth of fluid to correct. Majority of the time it is simply the accumulators have gone bad, they cost about $100 apiece, two required. When everything is functioning correctly the hydraulic suspension is unbelievably smooth..
You could get 420SEL rear springs and regular shocks and strip off the hydraulic stuff, pump included.


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I would also stick strictly with R-12 rather than converting to R-134. The R-12 system kicks butt, R-12 is still available and not exhorbantly expensive. Costs more than R-134, but well worth it. A conversion to R-134 requires extensive labor to be done correctly, changing o-rings, flushing and changing oil, and it is very likely the compressor will take a dump within a couple years at best (at least according to some of the conversions I read about). It was designed for R-12 so I keep it that way, but to each his (or her) own.
I'm going to use Freeze-12 in mine. See http://dieselgiant.com/repairyourac.htm for tips. I have the freeze-12 and I need the expansion valve, cleaner, vacuum pump and oil. Oh gee, more stuff for the moneypit.

Is the Suburban, aka Titanic, yours or Gov't issue?

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