Really? Propane straight into the intake ie air filter. Sounds too good to be true

Hello everyone,
am in the process of buying a 1980 240D/ Manual Trans/ 166 000Miles.
Here is my question. I found an AMG Supercharger on line. It is supposed to be for the 240D. Does anyone have any experience with this?
The price is right, around $200.- for the kit
But, does it do anything positive to the performance?
Does it have negative effects on the engine?
Or is it simply a pure waste of time and money?
Thanks guys,looking forward to your replys.

Cheers
Chris

Sounds cool. Just keep in mind that with any diesel (or any engine for that matter) you need a way to get more fuel into it along with the additional air. Adding the supercharger will do nothing for you and "turning up the pump" will only go so far as well as pushing the boundaries of injection timing duration, etc...

The proper way to do it is to have the injection pump rebuilt with larger elements. There are some custom 6.5mm pieces available but this process isn't cheap.

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Benz Fleet:
1968 UNIMOG 404.114
1998 E300
2008 E63


Non-Benz Fleet:
1992 Aerostar
1993 MR2
2000 F250

BTW AMG never did superchargers for diesels but did sell STT turbo kits.

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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making....
1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...)
1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone*
1977 250 parts car
1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone*
1975 FJ45>HJ45
1981 200>240D (to be sold...)
1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone*
1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist)
2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD

Got any pics?

Heck, at $200 I'd probably just buy it. Costs about that much to make your own turbo exhaust manifold when everything's said and done.

The guys who have turboed 240s all have good things to say, just make sure you buy a pyrometer.

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No merc at the moment

So far for my 82 300d I've removed that junky stock air cleaner style intake and installed a simpler, more efficient conical filter setup which releases blow by as exhaust and not spewing hot air and oil into the turbo and intake. It sounds great, you can really hear the turbo, but you only notice a power gain when you're accelerating at 70mph+.

I've also done an egr delete and that's made a more noticeable difference. The car also runs at 90-82*C when it used to run at 100-90*C, so significantly cooler.

I eventually plan on taking off the turbo and intake manifold to clean and re-gasket.

Also, I plan on removing the hood insulator and instead painting the bottom with high heat wrinkle paint to further lower engine bay temp.

Hi,
thanks for all the feedback.
@NZScott
Here is the official Title and link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-Electric-Turbo-Air-Intake-Supercharger-AMG-Fan-Kit-FREE-USA-SHIP-/261269240880?hash=item3cd4dc3c30&vxp=mtr:
Mercedes Benz Electric Turbo Air Intake Supercharger AMG Fan Kit

Oh deary me.

No. Just no.

Those things are just gimmicks, a leaf blower would push more air.

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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making....
1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...)
1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone*
1977 250 parts car
1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone*
1975 FJ45>HJ45
1981 200>240D (to be sold...)
1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone*
1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist)
2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD

Wow, those kits are completely fraudulent. Don't waste your money.

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-Evan


Benz Fleet:
1968 UNIMOG 404.114
1998 E300
2008 E63


Non-Benz Fleet:
1992 Aerostar
1993 MR2
2000 F250

I know that many larger diesels use diesel filter systems to clean the crud out of the water passages on a continuous basis.

I am looking to do the same with a passive system that uses the flow created by the coolant pump to move the fluid through the system.

My plan for each car that I do is to:
1. drain the coolant
2. do the citric acid test after washing
3. replace the coolant
4. add a filter for the future

Has anyone done this?>

The truck filters are very large and some have their own pump, which might disrupt the flow through the smaller car water jacket.

Any and all info appreciated, especially brands, prices and discussion of problems

There's an engineer who writes a column called Bob is the Oil Guy and he is doing this but I have too many questions and his experiment involves a small $1.00 fuel filter.

If I did this, it would be with brass and glass, so it could be reused and cleaned. Plus no chance of leaks due to action of the coolant on the glue holding the filter together.

Thanks!

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1950 170SD
1951 Citroen 11BN
1953 Citroen 11BNF limo
1953 220a project
1959 180D
1960 190D
1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr
1983 240D daily driver
1983 380SL
1990 350SDL daily driver alt
3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5
3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6

A main function of the coolant filter in large diesels is to maintain the correct SCA levels in the coolant, the "filter" wears out as the SCAs are consumed.

Although this is more important in a large wet-sleeve engine than in our little dry-sleeve engines (to prevent cavitation pitting), you can buy SCAs and diesel coolant from many sources, mine usually comes from Caterpillar. For the Mercedes though, replacing the coolant every 2years with the correct HOAT (Zerex G-05 or Mercedes) will work for most of us.

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Hello I'm new to this forum. I purchased a 1983 300sd it has 178000. The odometerhas stopped working on it. There is no rust to be found underneath the car, all of the floorboards are intact. The car is currently in the shop to be brought back to factory specs. This is going to be my project car for now. I'm trying to make it a super sleeper. What can I do and what can the car handle.

Hello ,. my car E270 CDI 2000 year.while driving i feel smeel inside like dust.Can you give any suggetion what part need to be checked or adjustment.

also during 4 years i never cleaned diesel injector . is it good idea?

thanks in advance