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			I can see it happening because the shaky idle is a "comes and goes" thing.  It often appears that the engine gets in a "positive feedback loop", aka a microphone too close to a speaker.  The feedback might be from the shaking causing the IP to modulate fuel, which amplifies the shaking, at certain rpm's that match the "natural frequency" of the engine & mounts system.  Being a "nonlinear effect", it sometimes takes a certain external excitement to get it started, and any little thing like a shaky air cleaner might be enough to push it over the threshold.  Think of the "butterfly effect" in world weather.  Sometimes a computer model even needs a little starting bump to get it to show oscillations.
			
				
					 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Diagnosis of problems should always follow a linear pattern to avoid chasing your tail . 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			Most of the Vehicles I work on have been through the mill so they tend to have really obscure problems , often DPO & DPM bodges . Fiddling with the rack damper bolt before you personally have cold adjusted the valves , as a waste of time and effort . As a Journeyman Mechanic I always like to hear others ideas so threads that meander around are usually very instructive although not always to the original question . 
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			The rubber mount that I replaced over the weekend has already broken, so yeah, it was just a coincidence that my idle smoothed out at the same time.  
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			If my idle gets rough again, maybe I'll do the same repair as kind of a rain dance ritual thing before I start adjusting valves and changing filters.  
			
				
			
		
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			Me too.  That's a new one on me.
			
				
			
		 
		
		
		
			
				
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