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Buying/selling vs giving away R12 freon
The Refrigerant Sales Restriction | Ozone Layer Protection - Regulatory Programs | US EPA talks about restrictions on buying and selling refrigerants. No mention of giving it away. Hypothetically, is it legal to give someone (who is not 609 certified) say a 30 lb tank of R12?
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highly, highly doubtful. otherwise people could just sell pencils to each other for $30 a piece and then give a can of R12 as a "free gift"
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Of course...as long as you're not a business.
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Yeah, that covers sale and purchase. Nothing about transfer of ownership aka gifting. The only way I could see it being illegal to gift it to someone without a 609 cert would be if R12 was illegal to possess without a 609 cert. It's not explicitly illegal to possess it without, so it should be OK.
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If it were illegal to give to someone without a cert, you would be in trouble every time you sold a car with a charge of R-12. Which brings things back to the old "container" absurdity of refrigerants. It's illegal to vent R-134 to the atmosphere from a "container" comprised of an auto A/C system but if you buy it in a can packaged in a container labeled as a keyboard duster, it's completely legal.
You're overthinking the situation...just don't have any paperwork.
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For $25 bucks and around 2 hours, you can get your license, so it's really not worth the risk IMO. Why risk it?
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Its my birthday, can I get it as a gift?
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If you're giving it away, I'll take it. Just sayin'.
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To conspiracy theorists.... yes....
but regular people understand the test is just a way to make sure that at least at one point in time... that person knew what the rules were...
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Sorry, I have none to give away. Hopefully I'll be on the receiving end.
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