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So the GP relay fuse went out on my car so I thought they wouldn't have it at Advance, O'Reilly's, or Autozone (and I was right) but surely I would be able to find it somewhere.
My first idea was my mechanic. He said he doesn't keep in any stock because he doesn't work on as many older Mercedes diesels anymore. So then my next idea was to check NAPA, none available at my store so I reserved some but then got a call today that they are in an out of state distribution center and I must go to the store to pay for them to ship it to the store (why can't this be done online?). The website says I cannot have it shipped to me directly because it is considered to be hazardous material (not sure how a fuse could be). Last time I needed to order a special order part from out of state, they also estimated a week or so for it to come in. I assume the dealer could get them for me but as with recent orders from Mercedes, I haven't had any luck with diesel specific parts actually being in Georgia (and Mercedes takes their time with shipping), and I can't order the part through the Mercedes parts website, it shows up as being NLA. Also not being sure of if I have actually solved the issue of why it went (I'm guessing age, it looked bad before, but I misplaced my good multimeter to test stuff), I don't really want to be spending dealer price on a few, plus the closest dealer is 40 minutes away. I can order it through Pelican but I don't really have anything else I need at the moment and I don't really want to do a small order and pay twice the cost of 5 fuses to have it shipped here. I find it sorta funny that of all the things to keep my car stranded somewhere (thankfully at home) besides an incomplete job or me draining the battery, a simple fuse is the first thing to do it to me. Thankfully I have another car to drive but it isn't nearly as fuel efficient.
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Hi there I actually suffered from the same issue. I have a amazing Solution. Go to advanced auto parts and in the isle where they have the add-a-fuseable link packages, they will have 80amp fuses that have a plastic box top and the copper out the bottom. Bend the two pieces of copper in opposite directions and bam you can screw it onto the relay. The cover might not fit but the car will start
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I'd have to look but I think I have a couple in the misc spare parts drawer in the shop.
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When I shorted and blew the glow plug fuse in my VW a few years ago and couldn't buy one locally, I made a few using 1/8 dia plumbers solder, a hammer and acissors. I felt the fuse to make sure it is not too hot to touch and created a short to test that it blows. That fuse is still working fine today. Not suggesting anyone do this but just telling what I did in an emergency.
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When you buy one, BUY TWO and keep a spare in the trunk. I've had my spare fuse in the trunk for twenty years or so along with a few other spare parts that will stop you dead and never needed it. That's always the case.
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If your original Fuse actually burned you need to find out why. Otherwise changing the Fuse will result in another burned Fuse.
If you Fuse cracked (this happened to Me) it is likely safe to replace it. It costs more but you could also use an 80amp Circuit Breaker with Female Spade Connectors on one end of the Wires to go on the Breaker and Eyes for the Screw Ends of the Wires.
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84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel Last edited by whunter; 02-26-2014 at 11:24 AM. Reason: spelling |
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if you go the circuit breaker route, DON"T get the automatically resetting one... it's good to know when it is tripping...
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Thanks for the input. I am planning on getting 5 because they are cheap and I'm not sure why it went out. I just pulled it to give a good look (when I discovered it had gone it was at night) and it looks like it melted. I have new plugs in there and just pulled one that was reading different on the multimeter (from harness to battery) but it is fine. I'm wondering if there is a short in the harness itself as on that plug it was reading it as there is no resistance between the harness and the battery.
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Pull the plug off the pre-glow relay that goes to the glow plugs, and measure the resistance to ground at each of the six contacts (should be ~0.7 ohms). I'd expect you have a dead short to ground somewhere. If you find one that is significantly less then the rest, you know which wire/plug you need to examine closely.
VW dealers have similar fuses for their diesel cars, I think the size is 60 amps. You could get one of those, then disconnect one or two glowplugs to bring the current load down, and you'd be able to start the car.
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answer if you ever plan on being that car's PO:
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I just had this same issue. I was able to stretch the spade to reach the the other screw. It looked like it corroded at one screw.
I bought the 80 amp fuse at AZ and cut down the tabs on the fuse to fit a female spade. I then added two four inch pieces of #10 THHN with a split spade connector on each end. I threw it in the glove box incase i needed it. The temp repair to the old fuse held up until my PP order came in. I orderd 3 because they are hard to come by. The AZ guy told me Radio Shk sells them for electronic stuff. I did not check as they only seem to sell cell phones anymore. |
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Last edited by Cadin; 02-27-2014 at 03:35 AM. |
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Really I only go there (RS) for led's, rectifiers (for old Honda CT 90's), and hard to find (locally) switches (e.g. DPDT-momentary, tactile, etc.). It seems all of the local auto parts stores want much higher prices for these items and/or have a poor selection.
Certainly for a high gauge fuse (80a) a generic auto parts store would be a better choice, but he mentions not finding them there. +1 for parts yard or get a few shipped online. Last edited by Cadin; 02-27-2014 at 12:22 PM. |
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