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1985 617 and automatic into 1965 F100
1985 Mercedes diesel inline 5 cylinder 617 series engine and automatic transmission into a 1965 F100.
Looking for anyone in North Florida area interested in helping me do some fabrication and complete the swap. The truck currently has a 352 big block with a 3spd on the tree. |
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What's wrong with the FE block motor?
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If you have to ask such a question of a person intending to put a 617 into a 65 ford f150 you can never hope to understand the answer.
![]() To me the question would be "Why an automatic?" ![]()
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You may have a somewhat collectible truck there, I wouldn't alter it. If you want to do a repower, find a newer truck and do a 4BT, or find a 250 or 350 and do a 4-53T. You will find that the 617 is a dismal performer in a full-sized pickup.
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No, I could use a 352 for my 59 fairlane, if he's yanking out a good drivetrain it may be worth getting it from him. I've got to drive past there to visit Mom in Tampa area soon.
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"Is the FE still in good shape? I'm looking for one!" (MAN THOSE INTAKES ARE HEAVY!!! ![]()
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! ![]() 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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Or he could just buy my 2000 Dodge Dakota, 4BT swapped, 4x4, Crew Cab........VROOMMMMM!!!!!
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daw_two Germantown, TN Links: Sold last car --- 05/2012 1984 300D Light Ivory, Red interior No longer selling Cluster Needles Paint No longer selling New Old Stock (NOS) parts Past: 3/2008 1986 300SDL "Coda" 04/2010 1965 190D(c) "Ben" & many more |
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Nothing wrong with the FE, the 3 on the column is terrible.
I just want to get into a truck and cruise with it ![]() I already have the donor engine and trans and already own ther truck. Just looking to do an interesting swap. |
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![]() ![]() WIKKI Fourth Generation (1961–66) Main article: Ford F-Series fourth generation 1965 F-100 Ford introduced a dramatically new style of pick-up in 1961 with the fourth-generation F-series. Longer and lower than the previous pick-ups, these trucks had increased dimensions and new engine and gearbox choices. Additionally the 1961-1963 models were constructed as a uni-body design with the cab and bed integrated. This proved unpopular and the F-series reverted to a traditional separate cab/bed design in 1964. In 1965 the F-series was given a significant mid-cycle redesign. A completely new platform, including the Twin-I-Beam front suspension, was introduced that would be used until 1979. Additionally that year, the Ranger name made its first appearance on a Ford pick-up; previou
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! ![]() 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! Last edited by vstech; 10-25-2013 at 11:40 AM. |
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![]() I really have no interest in getting another truck, I love the lines and look of this truck, just want to do something different with it. Make it into a daily driver. How could the performance be dismal? The truck weighs around 3200 pounds. The 85 sedan weighed in around 3400. Is your statement based on facts or just heresay? Just curious. |
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It wont be a "work" truck, just a cruiser ![]() Last edited by neumann; 10-25-2013 at 11:47 AM. |
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It would be way easier to just throw a c6 in it if you really want an auto. The FE's are good engines and I've had a few. From a 360 to a 428cj, I've loved them all.
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Search this site some more as I recall someone doing the same swap into a 60's or early 70's light blue ford step side truck.
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Is your statement based on facts or just heresay? Just curious.
I've done two repowers, a 3-53 in a '74 International, and a 5 cylinder 912 Deutz in a '77 Chevy Blazer. The IH was difficult to drive because of the engine's poor torque characteristics. The blazer was much better, despite having only a few more HP (105 vs. 108), as the engine had much better torque characteristics. Plot the HP and torque curve for the 352, and draw a horizontal line through it at the RPM where you do your normal driving. Do the same for the 617 and you'll see how much you're giving up. It's a great project and you'll learn a lot, just don't expect blazing performance or real big FE numbers.
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Will the truck's cross member accept a 617 sump?
This picture's huge - http://richardsclassiccars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/056.jpg Sixto 87 300D |
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