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HELP with 602 GP RELAY
I just acquired a GP RELAY for my OM602. Part#662 545 30 32
Anyway, there are 3 connection points: 2 connectors and a thick bolted down WIRE (which I assume is the POSITIVE terminal which will supply the plugs) One connector has 5 thick wires coming out of it which goes to each plug... The other smaller connector also has 5 wires coming out of it but are much thinner: RED w BLACK STRIPE YELLOW w BLACK STRIPE BLACK BLACK w WHITE STRIPE BLACK w YELLOW STRIPE Anybody have any idea which goes where? Haven't applied any voltage to it yet... planning to find which one energizes the relay. How should the relay work anyway? What triggers it? ACC/RUN? And when should it cut out? I know it does this automatically, how should I wire it? My car used to run on GASOLINE, I changed out the engine to an OM602. It runs fine but I have to feed the GPs manually to get it to start. Hence the newly acquired GP Relay.
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First of all, you need a GP relay from 602 engine.
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Yes... I do have GP relay from a 602. And I DO have a 602... but the car originally had an M104... it runs... I wired a switch to manually energize the relay. Would've wanted to have it function as intended. Hence... my inquiry. I found a few diagrams... following those i couldn't get the relay timer to function. No delay, no nothing. So i'm stuck with my current setup... manually engaging the GP relay... which works for me... for now.
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How are you getting power to the glow plugs without full relay function?
I'm not familiar with that glow relay part number but I'll assume the connectors are compatible with MB passenger car harnesses and it's an afterglow relay. Forget the wire colors and check for pin numbers either on the relay itself or on the connector. The numbers should correspond between relay and connector pins. Here's the pin list for a 90-91 300D 2.5: pin 1 = +12V when key switch in run to initiate preglow cycle (W124 = hot side of fuse 7) pin 2 = +12V when key switch in start to terminate preglow cycle (W124 = NSS) pin 3 = +12V to gauge cluster glow indicator pin 4 = ground pin 5 = blank pin 6 = signal from glow temp sensor by water pump to determine preglow and afterglow cycle times Assuming each glow plugs test between 0.7- and 1 ohm at the glow relay connector, leave pin 2 disconnected then see if you get the max preglow cycle of ~30 seconds. I don't know how the glow relay behaves when there is no temp sensor. If this gets to be too much work, a 617 pencil type glow relay should work for you since afterglow isn't much of a benefit in the tropics if you have healthy glow plugs. Sixto 87 300D |
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But 662 545 30 32 isn't relay for OM602 engine...
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It is... it came from a Ssangyong Musso, which comes with a turbocharged 2.9L om602.
![]() ![]() Sixto... I wired a switch to supply a positive signal to PIN1. But the thing is... as soon as I let go of the switch, the relay de-energizes. So I have to press the switch for the duration of the cycle. (by feel ![]() I did not use the temp sensor wire as I do not think I have the wiring for that. I watched a youtube vid which demonstrates the relay function, lights and simulated starting procedure wiring and all. ![]() ![]()
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Pin 1 isn't connected to the key switch, it's connected to a circuit that's live whenever the key is in the run position. Some things to check while leaving your pin 1 live:
- glow relay shuts off/times out after 30-45 seconds. You'll hear the relay click and the dome light will get brighter - I was going to say the relay should shut off with a momentary +12V through pin 2 but I don't know if that will happen with an afterglow relay. I hope you're safe and dry! Sixto 87 300D |
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Stay safe.
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1985 300D 198K sold 1982 300D 202K 1989 300E 125K 1992 940T "If you dont have time to do it safely, you dont have time to do it" "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." |
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Thanks for the concern guys... we didn't get hit directly where I am, the devastation though in other parts of my country is apocalyptic.
![]() I followed the youtube demo... I just can't get the timer to function. here's the link... Mercedes 300D Glow Plug Relay Operation - YouTube It's a different relay though...
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![]() ![]() N14/2 - Glow plug relay R9 - glow plugs N3/8 - EVE control unit M1 - starter ![]() |
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Have to ask Dr.... where did you get that drawing ??
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I found it somewhere in the internet... On the one russian site found diagram and on the other site found description.
![]() Also WIS/EPC contains these scheme(-s) (but uncoloured). |
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very nice just wish it had more descriptors for the callout connections
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This diagram is for E 290 TURBODIESEL (210.017/217, engine 602.982).
I'll post full description soon... ![]() |
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excellent
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