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Old 09-04-2011, 09:37 AM
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I put the W123 style in and had issues with compressing the larger rubber firmly into the LCAs. ...
Here's how I did mine - ignore the angle grinder wire brush attachment - that picture confuses...

How I ended up fitting the bushings to my W123 300D LCA

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When I replaced the rear sub frame and trailing arm bushings, I used Sil-glyde. http://www.amazon.com/SILGLYDE-LUBE-COMPOUND-8-OZ/dp/B000KXLR5E


I tried using KY gelly on the Sub Frame bushings, but they wouldn`t seat all the way in. I already had the Sil-Glyde, so the next morning I pulled the bushings back out after having them compressed with the bushing installer all night.

cleaned off the KY, and with this stuff, they went right in.

In July I stopped at JT20`s and gave him a hand with his bushings. he used a Silicone spray, and they also went right in.

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Old 09-04-2011, 11:29 AM
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:37 PM
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Damn it I forgot you all live in a country with choice!

I can't get the stuff here - I have to just keep on shoving with the KY...
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Old 09-04-2011, 03:15 PM
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Here's how I did mine - ignore the angle grinder wire brush attachment - that picture confuses...

How I ended up fitting the bushings to my W123 300D LCA
thats a great idea!
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Old 09-04-2011, 03:48 PM
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I have to just keep on shoving with the KY...
Tehehehe that's what she said.

Back on track. Part number for the w126 version? edit: W0133-1624590
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Old 09-05-2011, 10:53 AM
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Methinks I'm going to go with the w126 bushings. Do they need to be flared like the w123 bushings? The w126 install instructions on the wiki don't mention it but I wanted to be sure.
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:42 PM
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I just ordered the 126 front lower control arms bushings for my '85 w123 300TD.
http://catalog.peachparts.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1985-Mercedes--Benz-380se-Suspension&yearid=1985%40%401985&makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40X&modelid=6246%3AED|10000053%3AMBC|1525%40%40380SE&catid=241464%40%40Suspension&subcatid=241505@@Control+Arm+Bushing+Kit&mode=PD
In doing some reading, it looks like the original 123 bushings need to be installed in a certain orientation (tabs on the rubber).
Do the 126 bushings need to be installed in a specific directional orientation? I do not have the bushings in hand to see if it would be obvious, and I haven't been able to find any pics in my service manual. Any help, pics, or links showing this would be appreciated.
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:07 PM
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After reading a bit on the rear suspension, I'm going to hold off on that for now. Rear tires are wearing perfectly and I don't have any major rattles and no shimmy/shakin' goin' on. Besides, I have a line on 2.88 diffy and I only want to drop the subframe once... might as well do all of that at one time.

As far as lube goes is thee any particular brand that is preferred?
Just an FYI. The diff can be replaced without dropping the subframe. I put my 2.88 in without dropping it a couple years ago..
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Old 09-09-2011, 03:04 PM
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Help! I could really use an answer to my question above.
I got the bushings today, and there are 2 flat sides to the "center" part of the bushing. Since I have a 123, and the bushings are the 126 "upgrade", I can't compare to my old ones for orientation.
Do the flats of the 126 bushings go in the same orientation as the "tabs" on the 123 bushings?
I am doing this job today/this weekend, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
(yes, i have continued to search, but can't find a definitive answer)
thanks!
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Old 09-09-2011, 03:11 PM
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Old 09-09-2011, 03:21 PM
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hi John
thanks for the link, but i did not see a mention of orientation of the flats of the LCA bushing, only
"Drive out the old inner control arm bushing.
Install the new inner control arm bushing.
Install the new inner control arm bushing caps,"



i did find this thread which has a pic of 126 bushings being installed, and the "flats" look like they are vertical when installed. this does make sense, since the "rounded" sides of the bushing would be on the sides that take the most force (supporting the arm/suspension/twist). i would just like confirmation of this.
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Old 09-09-2011, 03:51 PM
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Help! I could really use an answer to my question above.
I got the bushings today, and there are 2 flat sides to the "center" part of the bushing. Since I have a 123, and the bushings are the 126 "upgrade", I can't compare to my old ones for orientation.
Do the flats of the 126 bushings go in the same orientation as the "tabs" on the 123 bushings?
I am doing this job today/this weekend, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
(yes, i have continued to search, but can't find a definitive answer)
thanks!
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:24 PM
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thanks to everyone for all your help, now work can proceed!
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Old 09-10-2011, 11:50 PM
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well, i don't know if i totally messed up, or if i got lucky installing the bushing and caps in the lower control arm. trying to install 126 lower control arm bushings in to a 123 control arm.
the inner bushing went in rather easily using a shop press. the caps, on the other hand, led to lots of cursing, tool modification/ingenuity, and eventually the use of my super huge bench vise after the shop press turned out to be a wasted adventure in futility.
disclaimer -i have never done this before, so i don't know what the end result should be.
the bushing kit is a Lemforder kit.
i pressed in and centered the central bushing so that it stuck out evenly on both sides of the control arm. i used napa sil-glyde as a lubricant.
i then tried numerous methods to get the caps to seat. finally, i got them to start evenly while compressing everything in my vise.
the caps seated on the central tube of the bushing, on both ends.
neither of the metal parts of the caps seated fully into the comtrol arm
the rubber of the cap compressed as the cap seated on to the inner sleeve of the bushing.
the control arm fits in the bracket of the body by hand, with minimal wiggle, less than 1mm clearance (total) between caps and bracket on body.

thoughts or comments appreciated. i am not worried about hearing bad news. if i need to buy another bushing kit and start over, that is fine. if i got lucky and that is how it is supposed to be, then great, i can get everything assembled.
thanks for any help.
jon

caps installed. one end (right in picture) sticks out a little more than the other, but both caps are seated on the sleeve of the bushing.


compressed rubber of installed cap versus rubber of uninstalled cap.


cap seated on sleeve of bushing.


fitment into bracket on body.

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