Do they even make this combination ? I am not going to put it into a vehicle... I want to run stuff like a welder on a trailer with it....I think they have them in Europe... Greg

There was one on ebay earlier in the week. Not many around though. This one had come over.

Don

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'84 300DT 298k (Aubrey's)
'99.5 Jetta TDI IV 251k (Julie's)
'97 Jetta TDI 127k (Amber's)
'97 Jetta TDI 186k (Matt's)
'96 Passat TDI 237k (Don's
'84 300D 211k Mint (Arne- Undergoing Greasecar Conversion)

SOLD:
'82 240D 229k (Matt's - Converted-300DT w/ 4 speed

Thanks Don, so is that your feeling also,,that they were not sold that way in the U.S. ?

None of the 300D series were sold with standard transmissions in the US. The 240D had an optional 4 speed manual tranmission, but thats the 4 cyl engine. The 190D series also had an optional 5 speed manual transmission.

I have often thought about how much it would cost to import a 300 turbodiesel from Europe with a standard transmission. If I did, I would want a 5 speed, and I'm not sure they were made. The one on ebay can be found at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600916098

I emailed the guy, and this was a 4-speed.

Hope this helps

In the W123 series there were 5-speed and 4-speed 240D's and 300D's made and sold in the other than US markets. There were no 4 or 5-speed 300D Turbodiesels, or 300TD Turbodiesels made as for some reason these were only delivered with automatics. I do not have the ordering catalogs for the later W124 series, but I think the same product structure held, and manuals were the bread and butter of the production volume. It is too bad, as I would love to have my 98 E300D TurboDiesel equipped with a 5-speed manual transmission. Jim

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1986 Euro 190E 2.3-16 (291,000 miles),
1998 E300D TurboDiesel, 231,000 miles -purchased with 45,000,
1988 300E 5-speed 252,000 miles,
1983 240D 4-speed, purchased w/136,000, now with 222,000 miles.
2009 ML320CDI Bluetec, 89,000 miles

Owned:
1971 220D (250,000 miles plus, sold to father-in-law),
1975 240D (245,000 miles - died of body rot),
1991 350SD (176,560 miles, weakest Benz I have owned),
1999 C230 Sport (45,400 miles),
1982 240D (321,000 miles, put to sleep)

JimSmith

I think that turbo engines and manual transmission make ROTTEN partners!

Having had a SAAB manual, and an Isuzu auto and a ZX auto, and driven many buses with each, that is my opinion.
Manual trannys only work well with the new quick spooling turbos.

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1981 300CD (Benzina)
1968 250 S (Gina) 266,000 miles!
1983 Alfa Romeo GTV6 (Guido)
1976 Jaguar XJS-saved a V-12 from the chevy curse, what a great engine!
1988 Cadillac Eldorado (better car than you might think!)
1988 Yamaha Venture (better than a Wing!)
1977 Suzuki GS750B
1976 Yamaha XS 650 (sold)
1991 Suzuki GSX1100G (Shafty Gixser)
1981 Yamaha VX920RH (Euro "Virago")
Solex Moped
1975 Dodge P/U camper


"Time spent in the company of a cat, a beer, and this forum, is not time wasted!"

Remember, this question is about finding a bolt on way to get multiple speeds out of a stationary 5cyl MB engine bolted to a trailer running a weldor,hydraulic pump, water pump, etc.... I won't be sitting up there shifting it like an amusement park ride...LOL...

If you could find a 300D that has a strong engine but no body and then find a 4 speed transmission then you could bolt the 2 together. There was one guy in here who did that in his 240D and the only problem he had was moving the transmission back to accomidate the 5 cyl. Since this isn't going in a car then you don't really have to worry about that.

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1982 300D - Silver/Blue "Ralph" -For Sale:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/119226-1982-300d-sale.html#post852260

1989 VW Diesel Jetta Blue/Blue "Bodo" RIP

Capt Kirk, I have a 1979 300 td wagon with 110,000 which was kissed when sitting parked...and I am cheap... so I thought I would use that engine and see if I can find a manual trans for it....Greg

Well I guess your one step ahead

If you can find a manual transmission then your set, it should just bolt right on.

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1982 300D - Silver/Blue "Ralph" -For Sale:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=852260

1989 VW Diesel Jetta Blue/Blue "Bodo" RIP

Mercedes sold tons of trucks and vans around the world (207d, 307d, 407d, 508d, 608d etc) which had the 616 and 617 engines with manual transmissions. Some ended up in the US and Canada. I've got a Mercedes in the UK with the 616 and a 5 speed manual in a 20ft motorhome. It is quite amazing that an engine which is considered such a slowpoke in an automobile can be used to power a fairly large motothome but it works quite well.

Thanks Kerry, That is called persistence of set... I was so concentrated on cars I did not even think about trucks.... Thanks,,, I think you have given me a light at the end of the tunnel... or chunnel in your case.... Greg

Bill, could you just bring a trans in your trunk when you come to the Shin Dig ? Greg

Didn't read the title of the thread too close, uh Bill.. ?

For your purpose, you could bolt a 240D manual transmission to a 300D engine. You will need to remove the adapter plate from the four cylinder and bolt it to the five cylinder to mate the transmission to the engine.

This could be easily done for your application, but not easily converted in a car because it places the transmission in a different location necessitating different driveshaft length and other component location problems. Since you would not have that issue to deal with, your combination would be easy to fabricate.

I beg you to take this approach, or even a four cylinder if it will pull your welder, rather than cannabalize one of the rare Euro 300D, manual transmission cars.

Are you sure the four cylinder wouldn't pull the welder okay?

Good luck,