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Old 07-20-2011, 03:32 PM
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I spend about 2-3 days just doing the rebuild, pulling apart all the bearings, checking for wear on cams and crankshaft, measuring tolerances and making sure everything is suitable for a rebuild.

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If the pistons are good, cost of a rebuild is not to bad.

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$358.00 each x5= $1798.00

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$437.96 each x5= $2185.00

OM617.952 Rebuild parts list
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-parts-reference-library/274085-om617-952-rebuild-parts-list.html#post2433530


Send me your zip code, and I can help you search for a good used engine.

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Old 07-21-2011, 11:51 PM
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If the pistons are good, cost of a rebuild is not to bad.

Piston Standard
MB# 6160303817
$358.00 each x5= $1798.00

Piston Standard
MB# 6170300317
$437.96 each x5= $2185.00

OM617.952 Rebuild parts list
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=2433530


Send me your zip code, and I can help you search for a good used engine.

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Ouch...thats actually fairly bad....

Anyways, engine hoist arrived today, I should be getting to work Saturday, pictures to follow
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:01 AM
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1980 300D now parts car 800k miles
1984 300D 500k miles
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As far as length?
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1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
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Any decision as to if your gonna rebuild or find a used motor?
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Any decision as to if your gonna rebuild or find a used motor?
Current decision is rebuild until I find evidence saying the current motor is unrepairable. Pictures will follow this weekend of me pulling apart said motor
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Series one of photos.

This is stripping down the engine bay and removing hoses and accessories.
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Part 2 of disassembly
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Part 3. This is it for tonight, mosquitoes decided I was delicious, despite this I got a LOT done, almost all the necessary hoses are disconnected, the AC compressor is dropped so I don't have to bleed it and refill the freon down the road.

Engine fluids are bled for less mess later down the road of course
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:31 PM
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Removing the manifolds today, only one more bolt, but the rain chased me inside.

This is one of the few engines I have actually HAD to remove the manifolds for removal.
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Strange as it is there seem to be lots of fairly good used engines still available out there for the 123 diesels. Area dependant to some extent though.

. As already mentioned if it sounds good in the donar car and has really good compression across the board etc. It is not that much of a risk.

Had a guy call yesterday for one with less than 100k real miles on it. Just told him it will be hard to find a true example.

Because of the rust issues lower milage engines are more abundant up here. but 100k is unrealistic unless a factory drop in was involved. I expect a decline in availability of good used engines for these in the not too distant future though. .
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Strange as it is there seem to be lots of fairly good used engines still available out there for the 123 diesels. Area dependant to some extent though.

. As already mentioned if it sounds good in the donar car and has really good compression across the board etc. It is not that much of a risk.

Had a guy call yesterday for one with less than 100k real miles on it. Just told him it will be hard to find a true example.

Because of the rust issues lower milage engines are more abundant up here. but 100k is unrealistic unless a factory drop in was involved. I expect a decline in availability of good used engines for these in the not too distant future though. .
There are 3 OM617s in the local junkyard, 1 turbo two non. And a couple 4 cylinder diesels.

I've got plenty of pickings to choose from should the engine be un-salvageable.

Below 100k the engine still hasn't worn in yet, if I am getting an engine, I like it to be 100k or more, and if its got good compression and oil pressure, chances are it will be good for a long time with the proper maintenance
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