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Old 12-02-2010, 08:37 PM
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My rear brakes don't work! I bled them, no air, brake fluid is flowing. It appears only one side of the calipers (outside) is working as the outter side of the rotors are clean. I think the inner pistons are siezed, the inner surface is rusted. I have heard of pistons siezing on, but never off. Anyone ever encountered this? could the calipers at fault or is it most likely the master cylinder just not sending enough pressure to move both pistons? Everything is quite rusted, I think the car sat for a long time.

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Not to question what you've stated but, you do know that the brake fluid reservoir is a split design with the rear section feeding the rear brakes correct? And if the rear section runs dry you've got problems.

The fluid over flows the internal divider from the front larger section to the smaller harder to see rear section. When bleeding or working on the rears you need to keep the fluid level in the front section very near the maxomum level to ensure the overflow into the rear section.

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Old 12-02-2010, 09:04 PM
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Can't afford down time. My only ride. If I take them apart and they are fubar I am screwed! I located TRW ATE style with pads for $24 each! How can I go wrong with that! New calipers pads and rotors, I think that should fix any problems. I will probably do the front brakes after X-mas as they are getting low.
You are on the right track weird ! If they dont have a core charge (change over), you will be able to clean up the old ones, get them working & sell them on fleabay !!
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I located TRW ATE style with pads for $24 each! How can I go wrong with that!
can't go wrong with that.
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Old 12-03-2010, 12:23 AM
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Another factor in the rebuild vs. buy rebuilt: apparently the original OEM calipers on many models were powder coated for rust resistance (or so my indie, Mike Burback, tells me). The cheap rebuilds that you can buy at the discount auto parts store never are.

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Old 12-03-2010, 01:44 AM
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Another factor in the rebuild vs. buy rebuilt: apparently the original OEM calipers on many models were powder coated for rust resistance (or so my indie, Mike Burback, tells me). The cheap rebuilds that you can buy at the discount auto parts store never are.

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I think the original rear calipers on my '84 TD were zinc chomated - kind of a pale gold finish. After 26 years, there wasn't anything left of the original finish. Only rust. One of them eventualy siezed and overheated causing uneven braking at first, then a low pedal after the fluid started boiling!. The pedal rturned to normal after the caliper cooled off.
The rebuilds I installed had some sort of grey finish, so I painted them with aluminum paint.

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Old 12-04-2010, 04:44 AM
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I wouldn't rule out the master cylinder if both rear brakes are affected, I don't trust coincidences.
I don't know that they ever worked. I only have had the car for a few months. I just did some minor repairs and safetied it myself. It has never had good braking since I got it, guess I know why now.
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Old 12-04-2010, 07:37 AM
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... safetied it myself.
you safetied it with frozen rear calipers?
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Old 12-04-2010, 07:25 PM
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sometimes, you can get a big c clamp- assuming the pistons are not all the way retracted- and force the pistons back. once you break them loose they will work again. take a wire toothbrush and clean the calipers where the pads ride, sand the ends of the pads down a rch and apply mb bremklotz (sic) paste to em. this will get your brakes working again, no guarantee they won't freeze up again though. new calipers are a better fix, but i'm a cheapskate.

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