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Old 05-04-2011, 04:23 AM
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It may be a little un-traditional, but on my buddies 300d, to get the leaking oil cooler line out, I just cut it in the middle so both parts can be dropped out, and then had the hose company flare on a fitting to re-join the two parts...
Good idea - have you got any photographs of your modification?

(Not that I don't understand - but it would be nice to make it clear for everyone - just in case)

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Old 05-04-2011, 05:55 AM
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I usually remove the bracket, engine mount arm (usually end up replacing motor mount also) and little engine shock. I also jack the motor up. In the end its more work but installing them is as easy as setting them in their place instead of puzzling them in
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:57 PM
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Pics

$60 total, P&L, from hose company.
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:52 AM
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Nice one - thanks for posting the pictures:-

I'll make 'em BIG if you don't mind





How do they look when fitted in place? When you fitted them did you get the feeling they were in there "solid" enough? I've got the impression that there is a bit of pressure from the flexible hoses pushing back onto the solid ones...

...I mean the nightmare situation would be that the new joint in the lines kinks and they leak. Sorry to sound so paranoid!

(I'm still a fan of the modification though)
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1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

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Old 05-05-2011, 01:08 PM
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Nice one - thanks for posting the pictures:-

I'll make 'em BIG if you don't mind





How do they look when fitted in place? When you fitted them did you get the feeling they were in there "solid" enough? I've got the impression that there is a bit of pressure from the flexible hoses pushing back onto the solid ones...

...I mean the nightmare situation would be that the new joint in the lines kinks and they leak. Sorry to sound so paranoid!

(I'm still a fan of the modification though)
It would be nice to see what type of Compression Fitting/Collar was used, the part number, and who made them.
I have read that some of the Compression Collors for hydraulic use bite into the metal when the Nuts are tightened. So I guess that would secure them well enough.

Other then it looks ugly I only replaced the Hose part and installed the new hose with double Hose Clamps.
3 years plus and with the exception that one seeped a little and needed the Clamps tightened I have had no issues.
It was a cheap fix and I did not need a Hydraulic Shop.
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Hi Army,
You're in the Netherlands. Do you have a Euro model btw? Does it have AC or cruise. Those components may add complications to oil cooler lines r&r in a 300D. Some model/years the oil cooler lines are wide open and other model/ years they're buried.
OH that explains everything, My A/C is blocking the angle needed to get the bottom line back in! I thought I was going CooCoo!
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:25 PM
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I usually remove the bracket, engine mount arm (usually end up replacing motor mount also) and little engine shock. I also jack the motor up. In the end its more work but installing them is as easy as setting them in their place instead of puzzling them in
Yep think that's what I'm going to do!
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It may be a little un-traditional, but on my buddies 300d, to get the leaking oil cooler line out, I just cut it in the middle so both parts can be dropped out, and then had the hose company flare on a fitting to re-join the two parts...
Good idea, that would be the simplest!
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:20 AM
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I don't know the Details but when ForcedInduction replaced the Oil Cooler Hoses on his 300D turbodiesel He replaced them with Stock Hoses but from an earlier Model. And, the earlier Model ones are easier to install because they; if I remember correctly run over the Top of the Motor Mount instead of under it.

I don't have a link to that thread I read that in so I can't direct anyone to exactly what He wrote on that.
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:23 AM
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OH that explains everything, My A/C is blocking the angle needed to get the bottom line back in! I thought I was going CooCoo!
Dave - have you got a picture of that?

(Probably not - because you are most likely sweating ans swearing at the oil cooler line rather than messing about with cameras - but it is worth asking)

I think I'm going to have to buy a turbo engined w123 with ac to check this out for myself! The ac compressor is lower than the oil cooler lines right?
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:24 PM
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These are indeed a PITA. You guys only unbolted the drivers motor mount\shock and had enough clearance? Where were you jacking the engine? Oil pan with block of wood? Have the middle mount bracket, oil cooler, and above all free and open to suggestions to get this done..
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:30 PM
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These are indeed a PITA. You guys only unbolted the drivers motor mount\shock and had enough clearance? Where were you jacking the engine? Oil pan with block of wood? Have the middle mount bracket, oil cooler, and above all free and open to suggestions to get this done..

Engine shocks and mounts

Some pictures of when I pulled the shocks and mounts to do the cooler lines.

A few others:









I thought I had written a DIY for oil cooler lines with all the pics, but cant seem to find it...
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Appreciated. Removed the passenger engine mount, took my purse off, and jacked it up some more. One of my least favorite repairs to date.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:48 AM
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Appreciated. Removed the passenger engine mount, took my purse off, and jacked it up some more. One of my least favorite repairs to date.
Have you got the job done then?

(Did you take any pictures?)
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Old 12-04-2014, 02:18 PM
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Thanks for all this helpful information
I have for the past 60 000 miles driven my 79 W123 non-turbo with a home-made job in which I fitted heavier flex hoses and double clamped them with the sturdiest clamps I could buy. This way I did not have to undo anything. But I now have a pair of lines from a turbo SD that are in good shape, and I want to redo the job.

Does anyone know if the turbo lines, though a bit fatter, can be fitted easily onto a non-turbo? Both vehicles have the GM style ac compressor.

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