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Old 01-17-2010, 09:45 PM
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After two earlier unsuccessfull attempts, this evening I finally found a Hella pre-glow time-relay listed under 'body-electrical' on Fastlane - for $193.50.
It supercedes the earlier designs and replaces both W123 240 and 300 diesel glowplug relays.
This upgrade part operates the glowplugs for up to 3 minutes after engine startup and appears to require replacement glowplugs.

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I've had one of those in my 300D for about 5 years now, it works well. Just one word of caution, if you take lots of very short trips you may find the battery running down because the alternator has trouble keeping up with the post-glow demand while charging the battery. It's not an issue if you drive more than a few minutes after starting the car.

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Old 01-17-2010, 09:56 PM
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This upgrade part operates the glowplugs for up to 3 minutes after engine startup and appears to require replacement glowplugs.
How did you arrive at that conclusion?
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How did you arrive at that conclusion?
By reading the information posted by Fastlane for their Hella pre-glow time-relay.

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Old 01-19-2010, 01:38 AM
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By reading the information posted by Fastlane for their Hella pre-glow time-relay.
Could you post a link? I can't seem to find any reference that states that the Hella relay operates in the "afterglow" mode or that it requires different glow plugs.

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It supercedes the earlier designs and replaces both W123 240 and 300 diesel glowplug relays.
This is definitely not true for all W123 year models.

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Old 01-19-2010, 08:06 AM
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http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=W0133-1606169&itempk=76207&mfr=Bosch&weight=0.94
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Thanks. But that is a Bosch part, not Hella.
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I thought only Bosch had an afterglow relay for the W123.
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Thanks. But that is a Bosch part, not Hella.
My search was for my '84 300TD. On one Fastlane page, below the Bosch relay, was listed an optional Hella Preglow time-relay, Part# 1331607146, for $193.50
I'll let someone else figure out what's the difference.

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Old 01-19-2010, 01:00 PM
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Is Hella better than Bosch?

I've got Bosch units in both my SD's, they are probably original. Seem to be working flawlessly (the one needed the terminals cleaned)

I've no complaints.
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I'll let someone else figure out what's the difference.

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That approach seems to be a bit inconsistent with your "Happy Motoring" philosophy. Anyone buying a Hella relay and thinking they are getting an afterglow unit isn't going to be happy. Neither is their wallet.
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There was no explanation on the page for the difference. Maybe the Bosch is made in Singapore, while the Hella is still made in Germany.
Maybe someone could call Phil for an explanation.
Meanwhile, as I mentioned, I already got spare glowplug relays at the Pick-N-Pull

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Pre-Glow? Post-Glow?

Guys, help me understand this. I live in the tropics (practically speaking) and detailed operation of the glow plug relay has always been low on my list.

The standard pre-glow relay operates the glow plugs for a variable, temperature dependent time period. There was a later change in the relay that keeps the plugs lit for a period of time after startup? Also dependent on temperatures? Do I have this right?
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The Fastlane page said for up to three minutes after startup, to reduce smoking during warmup. It appears to require replacing the original glowplugs with a different type. Probably not an issue in a warm climate, but now I wonder if the standard glowplug relay is NLA.

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Sorry to bump an old thread, but I thought I'd post some photos of my fried Glow Plug Relay. Any ideas what would have caused this?







I've replaced all five plugs and will check the wiring harness to make sure my ground is good. Is there anything else I should check before dropping in a replacement relay?
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Man, there was some serious heat going on in there. strange the fuse wouldn`t have blown to protect it.

Possibly a component inside the relay failed, but not drawing enough current to blow the strip fuse.

You can pick up a used one from PNP for around $10 to see if it was the relay or something else causing the problem, before buying a new one. but I`ll put my money on something in the old relay causing the heat.

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