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daw_two · #61 03-21-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by compu_85

Super wrong timing will cause the engine to not run right, but won't cause lots of blowby. Bad rings, a blown head gasket, or other un-fun things. How's the compression? If you have a helper hold down the stop lever and crank the engine can you hear the starter work less on one cylinder? Does the smoke go puff puff puff from the oil filler?

-Jason

The smoke was going puff puff puff puff ---- it didn't seem "uneven" like maybe EVERY cylinder was producing a "puff". The amazing thing is this car seems like it is on the verge of starting and then I decide I've cranked the starter enough.

79Mercy · #62 03-21-2010, 11:45 PM

Sounds like stuck rings.

Soak each cylinder in Marvel Mystery Oil for a few days, keep them full. I have seen this help many cars.

soothappens · #63 03-22-2010, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 79Mercy

Sounds like stuck rings.

Soak each cylinder in Marvel Mystery Oil for a few days, keep them full. I have seen this help many cars.

I think you diagnosed the problem 79Mercy.

I tried mine with the valve cover off , timing was dead on no chain stretch, feeler guage on the valves still lots of smoke and no start same as your describing with yours Daw

I sprayed WD40 and no difference . Last ditch effort was ..........Hope I can say this ...ether ! No difference not even a change in crank speed. Has to be compression.

I just wonder if they do start will they get better ?

Was the 240 running Or was it sitting up for a long time ? Did you ever get the 116 to stay running ?

daw_two · #64 03-22-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by soothappens

I think you diagnosed the problem 79Mercy.

I tried mine with the valve cover off , timing was dead on no chain stretch, feeler guage on the valves still lots of smoke and no start same as your describing with yours Daw

Was the 240 running Or was it sitting up for a long time ? Did you ever get the 116 to stay running ?

I got the w116 to start 3 times last fall; ran it for about 1.5 minutes. Nothing since then.

The 240 almost started on the first attempt; then nothing else until the last attempt when I had the owner crank the starter for like 30seconds. I didn't want to burn up the starter. The 240 is "tempting" me.

Glad I just read over the "MB obsession" thread --- yes, I'm pretty sure I have it, since I just posted over on the Vintage Discussion about a fintail in Jacksonville, FL for sale.

soothappens · #65 03-23-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by daw_two

I got the w116 to start 3 times last fall; ran it for about 1.5 minutes. Nothing since then.

The 240 almost started on the first attempt; then nothing else until the last attempt when I had the owner crank the starter for like 30seconds. I didn't want to burn up the starter. The 240 is "tempting" me.

Glad I just read over the "MB obsession" thread --- yes, I'm pretty sure I have it, since I just posted over on the Vintage Discussion about a fintail in Jacksonville, FL for sale.

Thats why I asked.

The 116 I found is "tempting me"

Is it more a tempting feeling or just pure determination not to let it win and actually get it running ?

daw_two · #66 04-29-2010, 09:17 AM

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