I am embarrassed to ask being this is my 3rd diesel Mercedes. I have a 2008 E320 Bluetec...I can not find the oil filter, nor does any of the car literature give you the oil capacity. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

You're going to change the oil on a new car with a warranty... GASP!!!!

I'm kidding. It's probably somewhere under the engine beauty cover.

Yup. Even under warranty, there is a $500 plus charge for each oil change. After having Mercedes do it 4 times (The boss/wife has put 30K on it already.) and reviewing the bill, the work performed, is the same I have been doing to my '93 300D and '87 190D. Only problem is, I do not know the oil capacity and the oil filter location. I have figured out how to remove the engine cover though...

Ummmmm . . . .what did you say???

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On a more serious note, does this car not come with an owner's manual that states the amount and type of oil to be used - or is it just assumed that the person who buys this car will not be doing oil changes.

Anyway, peel the engine cover off and look around - take pictures and post if necessary. Has MB moved the filter location on newer models? (I really have no idea.) If not I would expect that it is located somewhere near the firewall on the drivers side. Probably some special cap on top that requires a special tool to remove - even so it would just make sense to buy the tool (even if it cost $500) and do it yourself.

If all else fails on the capacity, drain out the old and replace with however much you take out. Then keep an eye on the dip stick to make sure you get it at a happy place.

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'95 E300D ("Tank") - 231,000 miles
'79 240D ("Biscuit") - 197,250 miles (Sold)
'83 240D ("Ding-Ding") - 217,000 miles (Death by deer)
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"Back off, man. I’m a scientist” ~ Peter Venkman

On driver's side of the engine front, is there a black cap on a housing bolted to the engine between the radiator and the rest of the engine?

If so, the oil filter's under that black cap, impaled on a spindle and doing its job in the housing.

There's a special tool used to remove the cap; it's threaded and sealed with a largish o-ring.

I have a 2007 Sprinter with v6, 3.0L OM642.993. If we have the same major assembly, you might be interested in the fact that I noticed that the prescribed torque imprinted on my filter housing's cap.

-Jon

Yes, the OF is up front and you need the special tool to remove the cover...no big deal.

For a while they stopped putting dipsticks in them but now most models have them...don't know about the Bluetec though - if there is no dipstick you can probably read the level from the display in the car, right? There must be a way to measure the oil level and I would bet that is in your owner's manual for sure.

You can always drain the oil and measure how much comes out and replace that much to start with, then measure the level and see how much more to add. I would guess you will be looking at 7-8 quarts. Make sure you use the correct filter and oil. The filter is a special fleece kind and the oil is Mobil 1 special for low emissions models.

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8to 8.5 and the computer will tell if the level is correct also on the repair ordes they should have how much oil they used.

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I've noted in the past that all of the repair orders show too much oil being put into my car when it was serviced at the dealership by prior owners. It is routine for them to put just over 8 quarts in and charge for 9 (they round up) or just over charge for one quart.

I would rather replace as much as came out and then top up than overfill. On my car 8 quarts fills to the top of the dipstick and 9 would be overfull but they always show 9 on the invoices.

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How much does the dealership charge to replenish the Urea supply at the 10K oil change ?
I understand that is one of the secondary service done at the oil change.

$ 500 is outta sight, even at MB lofty levels. Youwsa, have I been living in the past....

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'99 E300 295K, '83 300D 220K, '75 240D 185K sold
'80 MCI Bus Conv DD 6V92TA, w/4 cyl. Kubota diesel GenSet 12.5KW

The sedans DON'T have the urea tank.

Having said that, there seems now to be an unwritten rule that $500 is the minimum one pays to get out of the service department these days.

On our C300, the dealer wanted $349 for the A service which consists of little more than an oil change (yes, they "inspect" a bunch of stuff but with 12K miles there isn't much to find). I bought all of the supplies at the parts counter for $70 and did the work myself in about an hour.

They can justify these prices because now cars only need "routine" maintenance every year. In the past they could hit you 2-3 times a year but today it is unusual that anyone would require more than one service per year so they seem to take the "charge for three, provide one" approach.

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Where do you buy the tool and approximately how much does it cost?

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NHDoc,

Which do have the urea tank, if not the sedans ? Sorry for my lack of info, I am getting an education on service invoicing however...

Why is the oil change interval now 10K, the '99 E300D is 15K. Is it just because it is ?
At these costs I might never upgrade.
I found this pic on another site, I believe it applies, but I may be incorrect on that as well.

Thanks,

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'99 E300 295K, '83 300D 220K, '75 240D 185K sold
'80 MCI Bus Conv DD 6V92TA, w/4 cyl. Kubota diesel GenSet 12.5KW

Here is the tool:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-V6-M642-Diesel-Oil-Filter-Socket-Wrench-Tool_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem56344dace0QQitemZ370244693216QQptZMotorsQ5 fAutomotiveQ5fTools

Apparently it is slightly different than the gasoline model one.

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The other models have the urea tank (G, M, R). I think for 2010 the sedan will also have it as it will have the run flat tires standard (another reason not to buy one) and will have the tank where the spare tire used to be.

The OC interval is not 10K, it is determined by the FSS computer. Typically it is 12K or one year but can be more or less depending on the type of driving. It is not 15K on the '99, again, it is whatever the FSS says. Some can go 15K, others less.

I think the photo you posted is not of the correct motor, though I believe the filter is in the same place, it is just under a plasic cover which comes right off. The filler cap is on the other side.

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1984 BMW 733i
2013 Lincoln MKz