Does anybody here use the diesel fuel additive to help boost cetane and increase the lubricating abilities of the low sulfur diesel???

was just curious of others people's thoughts.

thanks for reading

i just add a little cheap dino oil

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It does not need any extra lubrication. Additives are a waste of money, what little they do is a psychological effect on the driver.

Forced... There is still very little evidence that the ULSD lubricity is up to par. Additives are a joke, but what do you recommend as a lubricant until further info is available?

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Hogwash. There is no concrete evidence that ULSD has a lubricity problem, only guessing, assumption and finger pointing to a convenient scapegoat. A few random and isolated pump failures are not "proof" that ULSD has a problem. Pumps have always been failing, thats how Diesel Injection shops have managed to stay in business for decades before ULSD's introduction. We hear about more pump failures now because more people than ever have internet access to communicate their problems to the masses.

Nothing. Anything you add to the tank besides fuel is a waste of money. Just because the bottle claims it can increase MPG by X% or pay for itself does not make it true. The "Tornado" intake swirler claims it will increase MPG but we all know it does not. Why does it continue to sell? People think it works.

The only two times an additive is useful for Diesel is anti-gel in extreme cold and biocide for a fungi infection.

not an expert here.

I am finding more evidence that suggests only minimal lubricity requirements are being maintained through the use of additives in ULSD.

There can't be any harm in spending another 1.00$ a tank (dino oil) to help lubricate, right?

even if it is just piece of mind...

allegory: you are raising cattle. costs are high and becoming higher. you can allow your cattle to graze in open pastures where food is free but dangers are higher, or you can rope them in every day to feed in the stable where you incurr the costs of feeding but reduce the dangers of losing entire cattle.

what do you do?

please don't side with blueranger on this one

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To answer your allegory, leave them to graze. The risks are slightly higher but its better for the cattle, your wallet and beef quality.

$1 for "piece of mind" is $1 too much. That is the kind of thinking that keeps scam products alive and their proprietors wallets fat. Why not spend $20 on a fuel line magnet or $60 on a Tornado, they "might" work? Multiply $20 by 300,000,000 people that could "give it a shot" for "piece of mind", even if they don't repeat buisness, and that is a LOT of money wasted!

That might be true, but the "minimal lubricity requirements" are the minimum necessary for proper lubrication, not less than necessary.

similarly, most oils also are designed to meet the minimal requirements, more than that is more expensive, which is where your premium oils come in.

If they meet the standard, that's all that is necessary. That's the SAE/Engineer side of me.

The owner, driver, and maintainer side of me however, continues to put RedLine Diesel Fuel Catylist in the tank, a bottle lasts something like 150miles. Why? Because it has shown itself to make my diesels run quieter and possibly reduce smoke. Further, it is not solvent-based, and isn't harmful to the system. Like you say, it doesn't hurt anything and for .60/tankful, ...

Some use engine oil, some use ATF, some use nothing, some use one of the many solvent-based "cleaners" like diesel-purge et al. The big thng to me is use whatever makes you happy, I do, just don't have un-realistic expectations of higher MPG or more power, and make sure it is not harmful to the fuel system or the engine. And finally, I don't believe it is necessary.

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I work in a commercial truck shop and use waste oil from drained fuel filters in my 190D. I like to add some mystery oil and 2-stroke oil to the fuel after I filter it. We have some 6.0L powerstrokes that have injector problems at 100,00 mi. and the blame goes to "twiggy fuel". The Cats,Cummins, and Mercedes in the big trucks haven`t shown any anomolies from it.

The international injectors have always had issues eather the injectors, o-rings or combination least the 7.3's did the fact is the higher the pressure the more likely lubrication is gonna be an effect if you compare the ~135 bar injectors to direction injection 1800 bar it's apples to oranges over 10x the pressure so i'm assuming that much smaller tolerance's so in effect the ulsd problem would most likely affect newer di engines not the tanks we love.

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2004 Infiniti G35 3.5L 6mt Coupe 73K miles 25.6mpg ytd
2001 Green Audi TT 225 AWD Roadster 71K 6sp 30.9mpg >>STOLEN<<
1982 300D Turbo 231K 120hp? 28.1mpg YTD

Apparently there are additives that reduce "wear scar" on the Fuel Injection parts.
See post #13 of the below post. Also the taller the Bar on the chart = a greater wear scar.
2 Stroke Anyone?

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84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel

Intertrashional has never been able to design a good engine or vehicle, I'm honestly amazed they have stayed in buisness for so long.

The 6.0L powerjokes have been filled with problems from introduction; failing injectors, blown headgaskets, stuck turbo vanes and poor off the line performance are not a surprise to me.

The 7.3 was finally becoming a decent engine around 1999 (It took them a decade to figure out how to add a turbo and intercooler!), its too bad they abandoned it.

You wouldn't consider a DT466 a good engine? I agree that the powerstrokes are not really Cummins class, they certainly arent trash. Ford Powerstrokes have always outsold Dodge Cummins and Chevy Diesels. They didn't outsell by having junk engines.

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'83 300D 198,000mi Howard
'03 Saturn Vue CVT 75,000mi(wifeys)

Crank position sensor...

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1981 240d (engine donor 1983 240d) recently rebuilt engine hurray! - No more.. fought a tree and the tree won.

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'83 300D 198,000mi Howard
'03 Saturn Vue CVT 75,000mi(wifeys)