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glow plug replacement...help
Hi members. I am the owner of a 1979 300d andn i love it. however, as a very uncommon girl that thinks she is a little bit more mechanically inclined than i really am, i sometimes end up in a bind.such is the case.
I have replaced 3 of my 5 glow plugs which would be 5 of 5 but there is a problem...I broke the brass nipple that is on the end of the temperature control switch which is locasted right above the glow plugs. i have one ordered that will be here tomorrow. also, i had opened a couple of the fuels lines in order to get them out of the way and i returned them to their proper placement. my car won't start.it does not sound like it is pickiong up fuel. i pumped the manual injector pump until it was tight. I am wondering if the fact that their is no connection between this temperature module and the rest of the car is the reason it won't start. also, the glow plug light is not coming on... help!!!!!!! |
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Not sure what the temp control switch is that you refer to, if its electrical it can prob be disregarded at this point, if vacuum, plug both ends for now.
Concerning the GP's, go to dieselgiant.com and follow the tutorial there for testing the GP's and the Relay. That will help you get to the bottom of no idiot light on the dash. Pretty basic stuff using a multimeter; scale of 1-10 its a 2. After you've got the GP's straightened out if it still wont start you'll need to crack the inj fuel lines one at a time in order and manually prime and/or crank until fuel leaks, hten tighten that line and crack the next one. ps: welcome to the forum and next time post on the Diesel Forum where you'll be inundated with expert help.
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bear with me
which end of the fuel lines do i crack open. also, i may have used the wrong part name but it is located near glow plugs,there are 2 of them, and one end is like a copper sted that screws into the block,if removed water comes out.i9t is electrical as you said. sometimes i forget how basic a diesel engine is...thanks
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I suspect you are correct and that is a temp sender. Shouldn't affect starting; once running, if you have no temp gauge you'll know.
Is usually best to crack the fuel lines at the pump. You only need to break them loose a turn or two, not remove them. When fuel leaks out, tighten them to retain prime.
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Terry Allison N. Calif. & Boca Chica, Panama 09' E320 Bluetec 77k (USA) 09' Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel 48k (S.A.) |
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You've got air in the lines. I crack the last injector line and the middle banjo bolt on the filter head, one at a time (filter bolt first is my preference), and really prime like crazy; not just till I see fuel, but until the fuel is solid. Makes a mess, and gets the air out!
I would for sure diagnose the entire system too, find out why that light is not on. It is simple stuff, and empowering too. http://www.dieselgiant.com/glowplugrepair.htm
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On some models, a coolant temp sensor is part of the glow plug circuit. Given the symptoms, it sounds like that might be the case here.
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And would the temp sensor being disconnected also interrupt the GP circut from receiving electricty??? If so, that is prob the sole issue.
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I am not sure what model and year of Mercedes you have. If it has one of these engines click on the enigine. It will lead to alot of informaion.
http://www.pauldrayton.com/uploadfiles/merc/Service/Library.html Also there are several Women who fix there cars on this forum. If you have the loop style glow plugs the info can be found at the above site if you click on the engine you have in your car. The glow plug relay for some of the loop style glow plug using engines is behind your instrument cluster; but I have not see a good way to trouble shoot the relay posted anywhere. It might be the members of the Vintage Mercedes forum would have more experience with this type of system.
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84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel Last edited by Diesel911; 06-20-2008 at 10:45 PM. |
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My '80 does have pencil style glow plugs (from the factory) and the dieselgiant tutorial was just what I needed !
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Think Alternative Energy! 300CD '80 (now gone but not forgotten...) |
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Glow plug light not coming on may be the key to this issue. I don't have the info in front of me right now but does this car have the sqiggly wires inbetween the glow plugs?
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1977 300D Lost coolant while someone else was driving 1983 300D Can't run without oil 1985 300SD (gone but not forgotten) 1990 300TE 4matic Sold 1991 Yamaha Venture 1975 Kawsaki 250 triple 1974 Honda 200CL 1951 8N Ford 2008 Wildfire 650C |
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Glow light not working usually means the glows are not working.
Tom W
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