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Not only is it a personal choice, but you need to think of your engines condition. If it leaks alot, the cost of toping up that oil will add up quick.
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I've poured a lubro-molly MOS2 treatment into my crankcase. It quieted and smoothed it almost as much as using SVO. It isn't cheap, but it is supposed to coat the innards, not just slowing the clock but actually rolling it back a little. I haven't tried the oil yet, though. Shipping gets costly.
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I agree with others who said there's nothing wrong with using synthetic oil in an old diesel and in fact it's probably better than using conventional oil. Having said, the OM616/617 engines were developed in a time when oils were quite primitive compared to today. Any diesel-rated oil is probably more than enough for these engines. Just make sure to pick the right viscosity. If your engine uses some oil, 0W-40 is too light. 5W-40, 15W-40 or oven a synthetic 15W/20W-50 is a better choice (conventional of this viscosity may not flow well enough in the cold).
I've been using Mobil1 5W-40 but I'm planning to switch all my cars to Amsoils after learning that they have the lowest wear rates, at least according to the Four Ball Wear Test data.
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I suppose they scored the cylinders or something it started using a lot of oil and they had to sell it at a loss after pulling the head for a look. The head wasn't the issue (as many are prone to thinking after the #14 stories) it was simple wear.
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Amsoil is better than Lubro Moly?
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I couldn't find any test results for Liqui Moly. From what I read around the web, it seems that Liqui Moly pretty much caters to high-end German makes like MB, BMW, Porsche.... I did find an MB-approved list of oils for different specifications.
http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html Scroll down and look for MB Sheet spec #229.3 and #229.5. I didn't find any ASME tests for Liqui Moly oils. It also seems from various reading that cars with Syn oil are more prone to developing leaks. Perhaps I'll stick to mineral oils in this car then |
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I ran shell rotilla synthetic in my 300D, it was nice because it came in 1gal jugs at the local autoparts store, no negitives to report...
Also ran synthetic oil exclusively in my 94 jetta (and redline MTF in the tranny) sold the car at 130K mi, and it had never ever had engine trouble at 90K mi I recorded average of 46MPG on a weekend road trip, usually I averaged around 35-38MPG with a mix of highway/city... and that was a gasser! Now my element is running synthetic as well... have not gotten around to putting redline in the tranny tho. the Ghia though I run dino oil. put synthetic in it once, and it puked it back out (leaked a lot), it ran like crap and I had a few times where it would not start after driving for a bit, and would run like crap after a while... I've figured out the cause was most likely that the engine was running too hot. Chnaged back to dino oil after only 600miles and it ran perfictly. Ever since than I've run only good ole dino oil in it and it's fine.
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Can I pour lubro-molly MOS2 treatment directly into the oil filler cap when I'm running Delvac 15w40 in my engine? I assume MOS2 mixes with any oil?
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On my '87 Saab with about 190,000 miles on it, I switched to synthetic about 9-10 months ago. I already had considerable oil leaks on that engine which I didn't have the money to fix, but switching to syn oil didn't make them a whole lot worse. The syn oil did, however, quiet down those aging hydraulic valve lifters and made the engine a bit smoother, so I stuck with it. |
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The only thing to be considered when switching from dyno oil to synthetic is the cleaning effect of the synthetic. You will need to be aware that the oil filter may need to be changed more often than normal for the first few thousand miles as synthetic might loosen up existing sludge. Other than that, I have seen no reason that would stop anyone from switching. (especially with the turbo models !!)
The only other consideration might be the soot that occumulates in the oil. However, even considering that factor, the wear factor is the winning element. Always use synthetic when available. It will extend the engine/turbo life. I run synthetic in all of my vehicles. |
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