W124 Door replacement speakers - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

NickMendoza · #1 11-10-2004, 12:12 AM

What ideas are out there?

What have been some of your creative solutions?

Someone has done this.

compress ignite · #2 11-10-2004, 12:17 AM

?Door speakers?

I've got the "grill(s)" in the doors but no audio from them.
(assumed they were only on the highline models)

NickMendoza · #3 11-10-2004, 12:52 AM

This case is attached to the door.

The speaker fits inside the case.

What are some options that you guys have done. Everything else has been repalaced.

jbhebert · #4 12-13-2004, 03:23 PM

I have the door speakers in my '95 E300D. I was under the impression they were for added base. The location of the speakers (blocked by the seats), and also the "enclosure" shown in your pictures would seem to corroborate that impression. I'm trying to find a dedicated woofer that small, since my dash and parcel shelf speakers can handle the mids and highs. A 2- or 3-way speaker down there would just get muddy-sounding. I might just stick with the stock door speakers until I can find a better solution.

E300D · #5 12-13-2004, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jbhebert

I have the door speakers in my '95 E300D. I was under the impression they were for added base. The location of the speakers (blocked by the seats), and also the "enclosure" shown in your pictures would seem to corroborate that impression. I'm trying to find a dedicated woofer that small, since my dash and parcel shelf speakers can handle the mids and highs. A 2- or 3-way speaker down there would just get muddy-sounding. I might just stick with the stock door speakers until I can find a better solution.

Hey, I got the same car with the stock "Active Bass " stereo. With some songs the sound isn't bad, but otherwise the speakers distort a lot especially the woofers in the front doors. I would like to keep the factory radio but upgrade the speakers in near future. Can you suggest what would fit nice?
I dont even know where the amps are for the car, can I hookup a subwoofer to the stock radio?>

What are you running in your E300D?

Ashman · #6 12-13-2004, 06:51 PM

I put some 6.5" MB quart in mine.

I had 6.5" infinity in them beofre.

I also removed the little boxes that the speaker wire attaches to,t hat cut the high frequencies as I used my own crossovers.

Otherwise they will be door subs as originally setup.

I plan on sealing my doior pods up with fiberglass most likely one of these days so it is a fully sealed pod, versus venting intot he door itself.

Alon

jbhebert · #7 12-14-2004, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by E300D

Hey, I got the same car with the stock "Active Bass " stereo. With some songs the sound isn't bad, but otherwise the speakers distort a lot especially the woofers in the front doors. I would like to keep the factory radio but upgrade the speakers in near future. Can you suggest what would fit nice?
I dont even know where the amps are for the car, can I hookup a subwoofer to the stock radio?>

What are you running in your E300D?

I just got my car, but I am planning on running Rainbows in the dash and deck, and an Alpine CDA-9835 head unit. The only question is what to do about the door speakers, or more specifically bass. I could eliminate the door speakers completely and run a sub in the trunk. I have a brand new Basslink sitting in my garage that I could slap in there. However, if I can get acceptable bass from the door speakers I'd rather go that route. I'd really like to find a pair of 6.5" subs, vs. a 2- or 3-way speakers, and drive them with a seperate amp. I like Ashman's idea of sealing the factory box. I'd like to know how that sounds; my guess is that you'd get tighter bass at the expense of volume, which is fine with me.

I'll let you know what I come up with.

jbhebert · #8 12-14-2004, 09:41 AM

OK... I might take a little heat for this, but how does this sound for the doors?:

PYRAMID WX65X - 6.5" Woofer Hi Power

White Injected Polypropylene Cone
Specially Treated Black Rubber Edge Suspension
Vented Motor Structure
High Temperature 1" Kapton Voice Coil
Heavy Duty Magnet Structure
Bumped Yoke Plate For Extended Excursion
Overall Diameter 6.57"
4 Ohms Impedance
SPL @ 1W/1M 87.1DB
Frequency Response: 65Hz-3.6kHz
40 Oz. Heavy Magnt Structure
Mounting Depth 2.76"
100 Watt RMS Power
250 Watt Peak Power

I know Pyramid isn't the best out there, but would that give me OK sound? I can get them for under $10 each, which might make it worthwhile just to try.

Any thoughts?

NickMendoza · #9 12-15-2004, 06:10 PM

The stock speakers provided bass. I took them out when I upgraded the system. I searched for a non-tweeter speaker= could not find one with the size that I needed or the quality.

Front: Rainbows
Rear: Diamond Audio M361i
Bass: Infinity Kappa 10" sub in box

New Door: Diamond Audio M361i

I did a lot of searching for size and quality. So this is what I came up with. I was able to fit the speakers in an almost exact fit. A little grinding and cutting of washers. The speaker will be able to move when the door panel is put back in.

I will post in about 1 week when I hook them up to the system.

A lot of people have said that they will be muffled. The other option, nothing was a hole in the system. I took a risk.

Nick

BenzOnline · #10 12-15-2004, 09:28 PM

Do these "cases" do anything in regards to sound? I seen pictures of the w140 speakers and many of them were in these big cases.

NickMendoza · #11 12-15-2004, 10:27 PM

No I do not think so. The cases have open slots in the back. They are not air tight at all.

I think that they are just a convenient mounting case. I do not know how the bass was able to come out of the doors with such force.

jbhebert · #12 12-15-2004, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BenzOnline

Do these "cases" do anything in regards to sound? I seen pictures of the w140 speakers and many of them were in these big cases.

If you're referring to the plastic box that the door speakers sit in, I think it was MB's attempt at a bass enclosure to get a little more oomph out of the factory units. I guess it's better than letting the entire door act as a box, but I'm not sure.

jbhebert · #13 12-15-2004, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NickMendoza

The stock speakers provided bass. I took them out when I upgraded the system. I searched for a non-tweeter speaker= could not find one with the size that I needed or the quality.

Front: Rainbows
Rear: Diamond Audio M361i
Bass: Infinity Kappa 10" sub in box

New Door: Diamond Audio M361i

I did a lot of searching for size and quality. So this is what I came up with. I was able to fit the speakers in an almost exact fit. A little grinding and cutting of washers. The speaker will be able to move when the door panel is put back in.

I will post in about 1 week when I hook them up to the system.

A lot of people have said that they will be muffled. The other option, nothing was a hole in the system. I took a risk.

Nick

Any chance the tweeters are removable on the Diamonds? At the very least, you might want to just disconnect them so you only get bass from those speakers. I think the tweeter will do more harm than good in that location.

NickMendoza · #14 12-15-2004, 11:06 PM

Yes, you can disconnect the tweeters.

I am going to try them in about 10 days. I need to put everything back together.

I am going to try them with and without. What harm will a tweeter do at this location to the system?

Ashman · #15 12-16-2004, 02:34 AM

you could seal the boxes up, a little fiberglass resin and some fiberglass cloth will allow it to be sealed. I'll be sealing mine up sooner or later, and doing sealing on the rear deck ones, as well as squeezing a 5.25" in the dash locations, but by going from underneath, and will be making custom tweeter pods for the tweeters on the a pillars.

But they do provide a little bit more resistance those boxes for a little bit improved bass response.

Alon