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W124 250 TD, won't rev, running out of ideas.
'88 W124 250TD RHD NA.
Started to become really gutless - took forever to get up to any speed. Suspected fuel starvation, so checked tank gauze - clean. Changed air and fuel filters. Removed lift pump and replaced O-rings. Fuel runs fine from tank (I have a face-full to prove it!) It starts fine, and idles fine. Press the pedal and it won't climb above 1200 rpm. Eventually it'll rise slowly to 4k. Try driving it and it will just about move off. Keep the revs up when changing gear and 25mph is possible, but that's max. Having eliminated all other fuel-related points I suspect the injector pump, but I'm at the limit of my mechanical experience. Side issues are that it's due an MoT (car safety check in the UK) in six weeks, which it will fail probably on rust on sills, perhaps more. If it's just welding then I'd look at having that done, but throwing money on having the IP rebuilt right now is not an option, as I could be faced with scrapping it in a few weeks if the welding bill is too high. Right now it's on its way to car heaven, unless anyone's been here before and can point me to a DIY solution. Thanks in advance. |
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Does it help to drive without the fuel filler cap?
Does it have anything of a catalyst or something that can clog the exhaust system? Does it help to restrict the return line to the fuel tank? Sixto 87 300D |
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I have its brother (see sig below)
It probably has a cat converter in the exhaust 1/2 way back. It maybe blocked. There is a flange on the exhaust just before it, try unbolting it & see if the problem is still there, it will be noisy while disconnected. It also may have a problem with the fuel pressure regulator (banjo bolt) Did this just suddenly happen or did it develop slowly over time? Its unlikely it need a IP rebuild, at worst just a very minor repair.
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Fuel Pressure Relief valve
LOOOOOOOOONG Post:
Fuel pressure relief valve adjustment Basically it's a "Banjo Bolt" (with a Spring pressurizing a Ball Bearing) that regulates the Fuel Pressure (Provided by the "Lift Pump" on the side of the Injection Pump) inside the Injection Pump. If the Spring is WEAK it allows fuel to Bleed Off into the return system, starving the I.P. of fuel. So Sorry about the MOT.Yeah,If the bottom outer rails of the Chassis are "Rotten" it'll COST to make it Good. In Georgia (The U.S. State,Not the Cyrillic Country) RUST never stops anybody...It's Effing Crazy,we used to have Required Automobile Inspections.
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Hi
sills shouldn't cost much more than £40-50. Might be cheaper to 'delete' them rather than repair the jack point - I personally will never use the standard Merc jack again.... Do fill the cavity with wax after the repair too! cheers
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![]() On the reverse (engine side) of the IP there is a 17mm banjo - the pipe leads up to the return line, but there's no spring inside it? All help much appreciated. |
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Seems this is on the reverse of the IP, on the block side.
I have removed it, but how to access the spring? ![]() Last edited by Simon21; 06-19-2011 at 07:24 AM. |
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Can you fill us in with some more details please.
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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort.... ![]() 1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket. 1980 300D now parts car 800k miles 1984 300D 500k miles ![]() 1987 250td 160k miles English import ![]() 2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles ![]() 1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo. 1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion. Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving |
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This is a UK model 1988, and I'm sure there's no emissions control kit.
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you'll get better help on this forum. wvo unless REALLY treated well, can damage the IP and prevent power/compression. changing back to diesel does not help the issue.
try pinching off the fuel return line like Layback40 suggested, and also try driving with the fuel cap off. and tell us if anything changes.
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You may have bad/blocked injectors from the WVO use.
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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort.... ![]() 1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket. 1980 300D now parts car 800k miles 1984 300D 500k miles ![]() 1987 250td 160k miles English import ![]() 2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles ![]() 1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo. 1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion. Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving |
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http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=24659&page=2
I will put this up just in case he forgets to pop back and post the cure |
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another benz ruined with WVO.....
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My suburban experienced a similar problem, turns out the excess fuel return check valve was stuck closed. not sure of the 603 has a check valve on the excess fuel, but maybe something similar with the fuel bypass.
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Excerpt from Simons post on the Uk vegetableoildiesel forum.
Then it dawned on me - the throttle cable was slipping through the non-standard clip that was in use. Took out the clip, replaced it with a clothes peg, and hey presto, lots of fuel reaches the engine. Just took it for a spin and was up to the limit at a rate of knots This was the cause of all the grief lol, the throttle cable |
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