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08-29-2010, 10:30 PM
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Looking for ideas: building another LeMons car from a 1973 280C
Hi all,
I'm new to this section but have been active on the forum for a few years now. I came here to hopefully gain some knowledge for an upcoming project. Our LeMons team is looking to expand and want to build a second car- of course this one would have to be a Mercedes since our first one was a 94 Volvo 850 5-speed Wagon and we are all MB club guys. A teammate has a 1966 250 euro with a 4 speed and a 1973 280C. To start with, we'd like to use the 4 speed from the 66 and mate it to the 110 in the 280 since both cars are the same chassis. Anyone have any knowledge on this? Any info on engine tweaks, suspension, brake swaps etc would be appreciated. Our group page here on the first effort, the ReVolvo is here: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=115747175114329&ref=ts
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 1980 500SE/AMG Euro 1981 500SEL Euro 1982 380SEL 1983 300TD 1983 500SEC/AMG Euro 1984 500SEC 1984 300TD Euro 1986 190E 2.3-16 1986 190E 2.3 1987 300D 1997 C36 AMG 2003 C320T 4matic past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350 
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08-30-2010, 12:31 AM
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08-30-2010, 12:57 AM
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I have a 72 280CE with a 4 speed. It's fuel injected so it makes about 185hp and the 4 speed makes it quite nippy. If you want to go with a more modern engine from a 300E, I have a 5 speed setup that will mate up with the M102 and M103 engines. I wanted to install it in my 280CE but the tranny will not work the m110 motor.
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With best regards Al
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08-30-2010, 01:25 AM
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just don't get it cursed
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Current 2006 E320 CDI, 57K bought at 67K "Liesl" 1986 190E 2.3-16, 198K bought at 56K  "Brigitta"1987 300TD (Chuggin Along), 292K "Friedrich" 1995 E320 Wagon, 200K "Louisa" Past 1987 300SDL, (sold) 125K, bought for 1$ "Kurt"
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08-30-2010, 11:16 AM
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Kick ass John! BTW, how are the bumpers and steering wheel on the '73 280C? I'd be happy to help fund the effort and help out my car's aesthetics as well
 PM me if you want to talk. Also, not sure if you saw the BGruppe thread, but here's some W114 inspiration, a rally car from europe: 
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Nathan '74 280C - gone to a new home for the finishing it deserves. '64 356SC '74 914 2.0
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08-30-2010, 11:54 AM
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wow that is sweet!
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1980 500SE/AMG Euro 1981 500SEL Euro 1982 380SEL 1983 300TD 1983 500SEC/AMG Euro 1984 500SEC 1984 300TD Euro 1986 190E 2.3-16 1986 190E 2.3 1987 300D 1997 C36 AMG 2003 C320T 4matic past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350
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08-30-2010, 01:04 PM
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I have a suggestion: GET A REAL JOB AND QUIT PLAYING WITH THOSE DAMN CARS!
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99 ML320 94 SL600 92 SL500 95 E320 Cabriolet 87 560SEC 86 300SDL Grease Car 80 380SLC Euro 13 Fiat Abarth 02 Maserati Spyder Cambiocorsa 00 BMW Z3 90 Rolls Royce Silver Spur 80 Ferrari 308 GTSI 88 Jaguar XJS12 H&E Edition 99 Land Rover Discovery
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08-30-2010, 08:20 PM
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HOw about that 2.3-16 you guys are working on?
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Regards Warren Currently 1965 220Sb, 2002 FORD Crown Vic Police Interceptor Had 1965 220SEb, 1967 230S, 280SE 4.5, 300SE (W126), 420SEL ENTER > = (HP RPN) Not part of the in-crowd since 1952.
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08-30-2010, 11:22 PM
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its coming along, I think getting detailed for starfest currently, Bill has it right now and just did the starter and replaced a bunch of gaskets and hoses around the intake that were leaking. I scored a sportline interior at crazy rays and put that in as well since our seats were split and falling apart inside.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=139930475129&ref=ts
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1980 500SE/AMG Euro 1981 500SEL Euro 1982 380SEL 1983 300TD 1983 500SEC/AMG Euro 1984 500SEC 1984 300TD Euro 1986 190E 2.3-16 1986 190E 2.3 1987 300D 1997 C36 AMG 2003 C320T 4matic past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350
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02-22-2011, 08:19 PM
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If anyone wants to follow along, we settled on a 190E 2.3
http://www.facebook.com/pages/24-Hours-of-Lemons-Ziegel-Schei%C3%9Fhaus-Racing/194968957198489
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1980 500SE/AMG Euro 1981 500SEL Euro 1982 380SEL 1983 300TD 1983 500SEC/AMG Euro 1984 500SEC 1984 300TD Euro 1986 190E 2.3-16 1986 190E 2.3 1987 300D 1997 C36 AMG 2003 C320T 4matic past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350
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02-22-2011, 09:48 PM
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Cool stuff, what ever came of that '73 280C? If for some reason I can't sell my '74, I'd be interested in the bumpers/steering wheel/tail lights...if they are nice. Looking to backdate if I keep it.
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Nathan '74 280C - gone to a new home for the finishing it deserves. '64 356SC '74 914 2.0
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02-23-2011, 07:49 AM
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email my friend greg about it - liquidvice 'at' aol.com
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1980 500SE/AMG Euro 1981 500SEL Euro 1982 380SEL 1983 300TD 1983 500SEC/AMG Euro 1984 500SEC 1984 300TD Euro 1986 190E 2.3-16 1986 190E 2.3 1987 300D 1997 C36 AMG 2003 C320T 4matic past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350
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02-23-2011, 09:17 AM
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We Lemons race a 1986 w124 with a 5-speed; lots of interchangable parts bw a 201 and 124. The best thing we ever did was put an LSD in the rear; second best are the 500E swaybars; lastly is the dogleg transmission out of a 16v. The car is a lot faster than stock simply from the gearing changes. As a matter of fact, we're racing this weekend!
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- Brian 1989 500SEL Euro 1966 250SE Cabriolet 1958 BMW Isetta 600
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02-23-2011, 11:36 PM
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Benzgay?
5-speed swap this weekend, still on the hunt for a 3.91 rear, have 500E bars, 500SL springs, converting to ABS, etc etc etc
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1980 500SE/AMG Euro 1981 500SEL Euro 1982 380SEL 1983 300TD 1983 500SEC/AMG Euro 1984 500SEC 1984 300TD Euro 1986 190E 2.3-16 1986 190E 2.3 1987 300D 1997 C36 AMG 2003 C320T 4matic past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350
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