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Boudreaux 10-06-2004 07:37 PM

M 119.972 Engine... One of the greatest engines or not?
 
I was told by my MB parts connection that if the engine in my car is maintained well it would last almost forever; or at least 500,000 miles. He said that this engine has its problems with the peripheral items (crummy wire harness, ETA problems, etc.) but the motor itself is flawless. I kind of believe him because at 116K miles, there is no tick-tick-tick sounds from the rocker arms or any other sounds except for the "whooshing" air of the fan blades and the humming of the motor. Does anybody agree/disagree and why? ;)

Gilly 10-06-2004 09:19 PM

I agree, one tough bastard of an engine!
Gilly

TimFreeh 10-06-2004 09:24 PM

The M119 engine is a masterpiece of engineering - truly one of the greatest automobile engines of all time.

blackmercedes 10-06-2004 09:59 PM

It's my personal opinion that the "family" (many design similarities) of the M111 four, M104 six and M119 V-8 are some of the best gasoline engines ever dropped into an engine bay. Despite some problems with head gaskets on the M104, all three engines are built to a high standard, last a long time and have bottom ends that don't seem to wear out.

I have seen examples of all three with 400,000kms and more, and all were in tip-top shape with no major repairs. The M119 in 4.2L and 5.0L form is a great beast with a few minor problems easily solved (tubes) and the overall reliability of the engine is superb. Thanks to this, the W124 400E and E420 cars are some of the best cars at rock bottom prices today.

In the W140, the M119 engine is thankfully problem free, since many other aspects of the car can run an unsuspecting owner to the poor house.

jchowe420 10-06-2004 10:11 PM

I enjoy my 94 E420 very much! It is very quiet and POWERFUL!! can anyone tell me if this engine has the similar tech like honda vtec or bmw vanos? coz i feel like the engine get more power after 4000rpm.

Boudreaux 10-07-2004 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchowe420
I enjoy my 94 E420 very much! It is very quiet and POWERFUL!! can anyone tell me if this engine has the similar tech like honda vtec or bmw vanos? coz i feel like the engine get more power after 4000rpm.

OMG !!! What are you doing to get your car up to 4000 rpm ?? Driving at light speed to see the fuel tank needle slowly move towards empty ?? :rolleyes: I can see my needle move while sitting in traffic !! :)

At first I felt bad that my car had such a low MPG until I looked up the fuel economy of SUV's. Hummer H2- 8 mpg

Or you can get 11,193 miles per gallon in this SPEED DEMON !!

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/quizzes/2005answerQuiz1.shtml

jchowe420 10-07-2004 04:25 AM

you know what, the mpg of this the e420 really not bad! actually it is the same as my friend's e320!
my 560sel is around 16-19mpg, 21 freeway
e420, normal 22, can up to 26 freeway!!

if play it hard, i do think 18mpg is ok... this engine rock!

Pete Geither 10-07-2004 05:42 AM

I think I must be one of the only people on the planet to have a 119 fail. A valve keeper worked it's way into the oil pump and destroyed the engine. Mercedes said it was an extra piece that must have gotten into the engine in the manufacturing process. :(

Rafi 10-07-2004 08:34 AM

I am sorry I no longer have that engine
 
I used to have that engine in 400E but I gave that up and I am so sorry for it. One day I will get another car with M119 engine in it.

suginami 10-07-2004 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJG56
I think I must be one of the only people on the planet to have a 119 fail. A valve keeper worked it's way into the oil pump and destroyed the engine. Mercedes said it was an extra piece that must have gotten into the engine in the manufacturing process. :(

Did you have to pay to have the fixed or replaced, or did they warranty it for you? I can't imagine how much this cost :confused:

Pete Geither 10-07-2004 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by suginami
Did you have to pay to have the fixed or replaced, or did they warranty it for you? I can't imagine how much this cost :confused:

Paul, Car was 3 years and 20K out of warranty, but because they had always serviced the car, Mercedes picked up the bill. I saw the final tab, it was just over $18,000. They definately have my loyalty as long as I can afford to drive a Benz. The dealer was Rahal in Wexford, Pa. :D

dreamer 10-07-2004 07:50 PM

M119 Engine
 
Every day is an adventure driving this Benz an absolute fun automobile to drive its as if you become one with the machine. The ability to accelerate as you please makes this an enjoyable love affair. If you've never owned the 119 rocket hopefully one day you will because one does not know what they are missing. Totally in awe of this extraordinary jewel.


95 E420 SE. 109000mi.


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