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Graplr · #**286** 09-01-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

Dude...Im still rollin....

Did you say homo erectus???.....LOL!!....

Ok.....here ya go....http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionfraud.html

Matt, I have a question for you. Can you please try and answer it since we answered your questions about evolution?

How long did it take God to create the universe?

Matt SD300 · #**287** 09-01-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Graplr

Matt, I have a question for you. Can you please try and answer it since we answered your questions about evolution?

How long did it take God to create the universe?

Here ya go.....He spoke it into existence....1 day........

Where do think the saying came from...What a difference a day makes!!!....

Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided, the waters which were under, the firmament from the waters which were above, the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Ara T. · #**288** 09-01-2009, 07:59 PM

Man.. some folks is just crazy.. nothing you can do about it. No sense in trying to convince faithful, literal interpreters of the bible of things like evolution. BTW, evolution and God don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive. Darwin certainly didn't think so.

Matt SD300 · #**289** 09-01-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ara T.

Man.. some folks is just crazy.. nothing you can do about it. No sense in trying to convince faithful, literal interpreters of the bible of things like evolution. BTW, evolution and God don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive. Darwin certainly didn't think so.

Hey Ara...

Sorry....The Bible is clear on this subject....read Genesis.....

Graplr · #**290** 09-01-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

Here ya go.....He spoke it into existence....1 day........

Thank you for your response.

What defines the length of a day?

#**291** 09-01-2009, 08:28 PM

Matt your "argument" doesn't hold water you can't prove who wrote the bible without quoting the bible. This is called circular reasoning and it doesn't work. Now can you answer my question about proving god exists?

Matt SD300 · #**292** 09-01-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Graplr

Thank you for your response.

What defines the length of a day?

Heres where it gets kindy of tricky.......

2Pe 3:8.... But,beloved, be not ignorant, of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Ara T. · #**293** 09-01-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

Hey Ara...

Sorry....The Bible is clear on this subject....read Genesis.....

Hey Matt..

Other side of the coin, no sense in trying to convince people who can see that evolution happens that there is no evolution because of what Genesis says.

Matt SD300 · #**294** 09-01-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by helpplease

Matt your "argument" doesn't hold water you can't prove who wrote the bible without quoting the bible. This is called circular reasoning and it doesn't work. Now can you answer my question about proving god exists?

Not true.....Many people from the bible have been recorded and meet the criteria for...Historical fact...

.............."Jesus" being the most famous....

#**295** 09-01-2009, 08:42 PM

You can't prove who wrote the bible is what I said not "can you prove some of the people existed." And you still have not proved that god exists. I see you are very good at dancing around real questions.

Matt SD300 · #**296** 09-01-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ara T.

Hey Matt..

Other side of the coin, no sense in trying to convince people who can see that evolution happens that there is no evolution because of what Genesis says.

Off topic...

Hey Ara...How you been?.....

Have you driven or rode in any hot cars lately?..........

Im going too dyno my truck again soon.....shooting for 600hp...

MS Fowler · #**297** 09-01-2009, 08:45 PM

The Hebrew word "yom" is generally translated as "day". Some of the uses for "yom"
24 day
"Day" of the Lord
"Day " of creation

I get into trouble with some Christians, as I am not one who thinks the Genesis account requires 6-- 24 hour days. Since sun and moon are not regulating day and night for the first3 days, its hard to require them to be 24 days. I believe the 6--24 hour day view came about centuries ago as there was no scientific basis to dispute the simple reading of "day"--indeed not much scientific to dispute much of anything, as there was precious little "science". As "science" began to be seen as the enemy of "faith", the more orthodox wanted to hang on to the "old ways" of understanding the creation account. I think, perhaps, it was never intended to be a literal description of creation. The framework looks to me like poetry-The last three "days" fill each of the parts of creation that were made on the first three days--and in the same order. ( Light/ sun-moon--Seas/ fishes, and dry land and all animals.) If it was never intended to be taken literally, then we are wrong to force that interpretation on it.

I am amused by the sanctimonious nature of some atheists here---some of you are quite proud that YOU don't believe any cunningly devised fables, you are people of science, and all your beliefs are rooted in observation and the scientific method.

Oh really? Do you really believe that all that you believe is bedrock science?

Matt SD300 · #**298** 09-01-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by helpplease

You can't prove who wrote the bible is what I said not "can you prove some of the people existed." And you still have not proved that god exists. I see you are very good at dancing around real questions.

Let me help you please....LOL....Im sorry... thats funny......

Was Abraham Lincoln the 16th president of the USA??........

A264172 · #**299** 09-01-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

You have no concern for future judgment of your actions, and are not in any way constrained by that thought. Indeed, you are governed by you.

So how does atheism govern your actions?

I find this reply to be a trinity of amusement, illumination, and nourishment.

Matt L · #**300** 09-01-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

I am amused by the sanctimonious nature of some atheists here---some of you are quite proud that YOU don't believe any cunningly devised fables, you are people of science, and all your beliefs are rooted in observation and the scientific method.

Oh really? Do you really believe that all that you believe is bedrock science?

No, I don't really believe that all that I believe is even true. I accept the possibility that the theory of evolution is wrong, for example. I just happen to think that it is true because it fits the available evidence.

I'm not proud to be "smarter than you," if that's what you're implying. I was a believer once, a few decades ago.

I cannot believe in God just as you cannot believe in the Tooth Fairy (please, please don't say that you do). It is as simple as that. You cannot force yourself to believe something. If you try, you end up as a very conflicted individual; I was one, a few decades ago.