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Old 02-12-2022, 07:35 PM
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Transmission woes

Hi all! It's been a while.
For the most part my OM617.951/722.303 swapped '53 F100 has been trouble free for over 100K miles.....till today. Drove to town, made several stops and headed home, all was fine. I came to a full stop and when I started off the transmission didn't shift to 2nd gear till about 35-40 MPH and never would make the shift to high gear. It was raining mixed with wet snow, so I parked it at a friend's house and caught a ride home. Going to check it out tomorrow and need a few points to check. My first thought is vacuum loss to the modulator, but I thought it should eventually shift.
Any thoughts or suggestions will be greatly appreciated, Jeff

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Old 02-14-2022, 09:38 PM
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I remembered that I had previously had a similar issue with this trans several years ago, the problem then was the bowden cable adjuster had disintegrated and was way out of adjustment. Then I wrapped a zip tie around to hold it. Well, it's still there and playing with the cable adjustment made no difference. I'm leaning towards the valve being stuck.
Thoughts anyone?
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Old 02-15-2022, 09:56 PM
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Check the basics, what does the ATF smell like ? .

After 100,000 miles it and the filter need changing as well as drain the torque converter .

Any chance of pix of your truck ? sounds nice to me .
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My first thought is vacuum loss to the modulator, but I thought it should eventually shift.
Vacuum loss (alone) won't prevent the transmission from shifting.
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Stuck kickdown switch or solenoid?
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Old 02-15-2022, 10:13 PM
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Check the pressure first ~ that bit of *excellent* advice was given to by by an older member here who's gone away ~ I didn't bother at first and nearly $pent big $ on a rebuilt I didn't need .
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Old 02-16-2022, 01:48 PM
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Check the vac modulator (could also be a bad cap), recheck the bowden cable and per many others on this forum have suggested maybe a quart of TransX to help clean the valve body, could be a stuck valve or clutch material clog in the valve body. Then if cleared a fluid filter change would be in order.

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Old 02-16-2022, 02:41 PM
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Shorted or stuck on kickdown switch would be the first place I looked. In a conversion like yours weather may have better access to it. Than it did in the original situation.

As well as bowden cable issues. Like a disconnected end.
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Old 02-18-2022, 10:42 AM
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Ok, I haven't had time to look at it this week, hopefully this weekend.
1- no kickdown switch installed.
2- fluid and filter maybe 20K.
3- fluid is normal color and smells good.
4- vacuum lines are all attached.
When I had this similar issue before I could manually shift it and get high gear, not so this time though.
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Old 02-18-2022, 10:50 AM
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Sun Valley Mercedes Transmissions in Van Nuys, CA is the expert on all Mércedes automatic transmissions. They have an excellent website with lots of tips regarding Mercedes auto transmissions. The owner is Marc and he is very friendly and helpful.
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Old 02-18-2022, 01:29 PM
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IMO Sounds like the bowden cable slipped off of a mount, either at the ends or a chassis brace. You said was working fine, came to a stop, didnt shift to 2nd afterwards until reaching 35-40mph. To me this sounds like shifting is now 100% fluid pressure/vacuum controlled and not cable controlled. I would look at your throttle linkage to bowden cable and ensure that as the throttle cable begins to move the linkage it is also moving the bowden cable. If not, adjust till it does. The other end would be the cable linkage to the trans. Lastly, depending on your installation, if the bowden cable is attached to the chassis/body to hold an arc, make sure that fitment is still present.
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IMO Sounds like the bowden cable slipped off of a mount, either at the ends or a chassis brace. You said was working fine, came to a stop, didnt shift to 2nd afterwards until reaching 35-40mph. To me this sounds like shifting is now 100% fluid pressure/vacuum controlled and not cable controlled. I would look at your throttle linkage to bowden cable and ensure that as the throttle cable begins to move the linkage it is also moving the bowden cable. If not, adjust till it does. The other end would be the cable linkage to the trans. Lastly, depending on your installation, if the bowden cable is attached to the chassis/body to hold an arc, make sure that fitment is still present.
However, a loss of control pressure (loose or disconnected control pressure cable) would result in early and/or stacked shifts, not late shifts.
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Old 02-18-2022, 08:14 PM
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Thumbs up Vintage Truck

Thank you for posting, that's a good truck, I remember them well and the OM617 just makes it better in my view .
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Sure it's the B2 piston, as I recently had this problem with my 83 300TDT. Checked the cable, kickdown, actuators, vac and all. Took cover off of B2 piston...it fell in my hand in pieces.

I had to rev it high just to get it moving.

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