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Proper diesel no longer available in USA for modern diesels?
This syndicated article appeared in our local paper:
Mercedes says goodbye to diesel in North America | Driving Basically says that diesel fuel currently and in future available in USA will ruin our modern diesels and will void warranties. Is it true that B5 diesel is not widely available? This is what article claims: Quote:
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Interesting....so it sounds like that this would even apply to the OM648 in my 06 CDI?
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Could be, but I wonder how accurate the article is. With the number of modern diesels on the road in USA, can you imagine not having B5 or better available?
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In saying 'B5 or better,' do you mean less than 5% bio products?
It appeared to me that anything equal to or less than 5% was ok. Did I miss something?
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no you got that right. You are missing part about that not being available.
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All the fuel I see in the Northeast is <5%. So where is it not available?
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Luckily around here, and in TigerTown, we can still get B5 for our two common rail MLs.
They do mark the pump with a B20 label if it’s B20. I would like to know exactly what the issue is with > B5? Eats seals? Clogs injectors? Damages the pump?
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This must be a regional thing. There is no biodiesel, B5 or otherwise, anywhere in the DC metro area. There used to be several B20 and B100 pumps in the area, but they all disappeared a few years ago.
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For me, I have traveled all throughout the West coast with diesels only of course and I can say it is a rare thing to see a pump with B20. There are a few websites that list B99 and B100 stations, but you generally have to drive far out of your way to find them.
I can't see this being too much of an issue because the majority of diesel is consumed by commercial trucking and as an industry, they are not going to accept any damage from biodiesel. Dkr. |
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I wonder if those big diesels are as susceptible to damage as the small auto diesels. I need to read that MBUSA link again, but it seemed a big problem was dilution of lube oil with fuel.
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I live in northern Virginia. That has been my experience too. It's all 40 cetane. I could drive 30 miles and get 50; I figure that's harder on the car than using 40. |
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I've seen several gov't and college shuttle buses advertising on the back that they're powered by B20 biodiesel. And I know the military uses it in their non-tactical vehicles. So there must be a private bulk supplier with pumps not open to the public. Still, its disappointing that us common folk cant get our hands on some.
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Buying biodiesel where I live (Phoenix, Arizona valley) is difficult. Right now I think there is only one station selling it (Western States Petroleum; they have B50 and B99--I use B99), other than the Love's on the west side of the valley, which I think sells B5.
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Yup, same here no bio diesel anywhere, there is 50 cetane diesel,but it's very far away in the boonies. It's out west in Windsor.
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Did you read the MBUSA link above?
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