From what I read into it, they were concerned about the rescuer being electrocuted in the water. I hate to think what is happening to the occupants in that scenario.

My employer is "all in" on this alternate energy and has a deal with Nissan to lease one of these things for $200/mo for 24 mo. They sweeten it by my company placing 4 of their charging stations in front of the building with free electricity. We have had about a half dozen takers. No thanks.

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The OM 642/722.9 powered family
Still going strong
2014 ML350 Bluetec (wife's DD)
2013 E350 Bluetec (my DD)

both my kids cars went to junkyard in 2023
2008 ML320 CDI (Older son’s DD) fatal transmission failure, water soaked/fried rear SAM, numerous other issues, just too far gone to save (165k miles)
2008 E320 Bluetec (Younger son's DD) injector failed open and diluted oil with diesel, spun main bearings (240k miles)

1998 E300DT sold to TimFreeh
1987 300TD sold to vstech

I think people should be able to choose their vehicle, without having to worry about which 'villain of the month' is currently the fashionable political target.
But as someone that drives cars that are way older than a battery warranty or it's life-expectancy, for me hybrids and electrics just aren't an option.

Happy Motoring, Mark

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I was in San Diego for a week and a half a couple months ago. The trolley system there is actually pretty good and I got to wherever I wanted to go despite being car-less the whole time I was there. Public transportation options in most of the rest of the U.S. are generally much less good.

Amen. Preach on Brother Mark.

That too, at least for me. However, I know a couple guys with Chevy Volts and they're quite happy with them. One also has a Leaf. I would have issues with the 70 mile range, but he makes it work.

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 401,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 26,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.
99 Mazda Miata 183,xxx miles.

I discovered the downsides to hybrids a few years ago after a friend bought a used Honda Insight. After two more years the original battery failed but it was still covered under the original Honda ten year warranty. But then, after two more years, the replacement Honda battery failed. Because this was used as a second car, Honda insisted the battery failed because "he didn't drive the car enough", and the replacement battery was "only covered by a one-year warranty anyway!"
At least, thanks to the internet, we were able to disconnect the hybrid electronics and my friend can drive it on the gas engine. However we can't remove the heavy hybrid battery because we have no safe way to lift the thing and the car is balanced for the weight. So my friend has to drive his tiny two-seat hatchback, hauling 200 pounds of dead weight, until he decides if he wants to pay for a third hybrid battery.
And thanks to the internet, my friend could get an aftermarket battery for much less than the $2000+ Honda wants for one. But there is much controversy over the quality & lifespan of aftermarket hybrid batteries. So my friend continues to drive his tiny hybrid as a gas car, while hauling around two hundred pounds of dead-weight!

Happy Motoring, Mark

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Are you sure it's 200? 200 pounds is not that hard to hoist with inexpensive equipment and a stout tree. I even used the kid's swing set to lift stuff

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1993 MB 300D 245K died.

Well, I guesstimated based on the size of the battery, which sits down in a large well under the rear cargo floor.
The rear hatch would be in the way of a tree or swing-set. So maybe something like a forklift. But the battery doesn't appear to have anything to grab on to. It probably requires a special lifting cradle.
In any case, with it's aluminum body, I expect the tiny Insight would sit very high and be very light in the rear if the battery was gone. And as long as the car remains driveable, my friend is going to live with it. He doesn't want to pay for another battery!

Happy Motoring, Mark

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Even with the bad battery that insight still brings 2-3k around here, regardless of miles on car.

I'm surprised to hear they need anchors where you are!

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!