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02-24-2010, 04:34 PM
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Non-turbo 617 Camshaft vs. Turbo 617 Cam
The cam on my 300D is slightly worn, nothing really major just a little worn.
There's a 1983 300SD in my JY with a like new camshaft. So heres the question, is the valve timing on the turbo diesels the same as the non-turbo's? Is it so different that I would see a decline in HP, or might I see a gain in HP? Has anyone done this before? Yes I know I will need to use the rocker arms from the turbo diesel if I use the camshaft. Thanks
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1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon 1979 280CE 225,200 miles 1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles 1976 240D 190,000 miles 1979 300TD 220,000 GONE but not forgotten 1976 300D 195,300 miles 1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg 
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02-24-2010, 04:41 PM
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As I recall, the lift and duration are different.
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02-24-2010, 06:33 PM
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I thought there might be a difference, but I was hoping it would improve performance, haha.
Thanks for the input.
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1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon 1979 280CE 225,200 miles 1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles 1976 240D 190,000 miles 1979 300TD 220,000 GONE but not forgotten 1976 300D 195,300 miles 1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg
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02-24-2010, 07:05 PM
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1980 240d , chain elongation, cam marks reference: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/10414-help-i-need-check-stretch.html http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html evap fin cleaning: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator A/C thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html
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02-24-2010, 08:11 PM
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I may have an NA cam from a 617 i can get a hold of.
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1982 300DT *4-speed*// proper 617 donor for conversion // W126 big brakes // front wagon swaybar // european lights & bumpers // rear headrests // lumbar support // warning triangle // overdrive water pump pulley & 9 blade fan // Too many more to list Dark blue/ Palomino. 1983 300D euro no longer a 4 speed. . swap/parts carr
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02-24-2010, 10:21 PM
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my daughter is heading for lakeland soon, and I have 3 useless NA cams if you want one.
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02-24-2010, 10:23 PM
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How much for 1 useless NA cam? Thanks
Thanks again everyone for your input, im going to use a NA cam.
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1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon 1979 280CE 225,200 miles 1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles 1976 240D 190,000 miles 1979 300TD 220,000 GONE but not forgotten 1976 300D 195,300 miles 1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg
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02-24-2010, 11:14 PM
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Be sure to check on the material used for the cams and the followers.. they need to match... it is somewhere in the FSM...
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1980 240d , chain elongation, cam marks reference: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html evap fin cleaning: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator A/C thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html
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#10
02-24-2010, 11:20 PM
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I also need some more rocker arms, my originals are pretty bad.
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1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon 1979 280CE 225,200 miles 1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles 1976 240D 190,000 miles 1979 300TD 220,000 GONE but not forgotten 1976 300D 195,300 miles 1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg
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02-25-2010, 12:56 AM
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would you want the whole head?
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1982 300DT *4-speed*// proper 617 donor for conversion // W126 big brakes // front wagon swaybar // european lights & bumpers // rear headrests // lumbar support // warning triangle // overdrive water pump pulley & 9 blade fan // Too many more to list Dark blue/ Palomino. 1983 300D euro no longer a 4 speed. . swap/parts carr
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