Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-14-2007, 03:20 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: VA
Posts: 621
210 spring perches - preemptive welding?

:MODERATOR EDIT ADDING DATA LINK:
W210 DANGEROUS FLAW please read (crosslinked in post #1 to all on topic data)
W210 DANGEROUS FLAW please read (crosslinked in post #1 to all on topic data)
:MODERATOR EDIT ADDING DATA LINK:


Has anyone had their existing spring perches welded on more securely as a preventative measure? I'm guessing this procedure would cost less than having to fix it "after the fact".

__________________
'98 E300 turbodiesel

Last edited by whunter; 01-02-2011 at 02:43 AM. Reason: Added data link
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-14-2007, 03:23 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Walnut Creek, CA & 1,150 miles S of Key West
Posts: 4,874
I suspect it would have to be spot welds such as the factory used as the metal is thin.

The retrofit is done using rivits.

Search NHDOC's posts, I think he posted the repair document a few months ago.
__________________
Terry Allison
N. Calif. & Boca Chica, Panama

09' E320 Bluetec 77k (USA)
09' Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel 48k (S.A.)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-14-2007, 10:30 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 3,956
I'd sooner do the pre-emptive riveting than any more welding on these...they are thin metal...
__________________
Marty D.

2013 C300 4Matic
1984 BMW 733i
2013 Lincoln MKz
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-15-2007, 12:09 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: VA
Posts: 621
I'm guessing a dealer would be most familiar with this riveting procedure vs. a body shop, no? If I want the local dealer to do it, is there a service bulletin number I can reference? I'm afraid I'll walk in there and ask for the "210 spring perch riveting job" and get a deer-in-the-headlights blank stare from the service guy.
__________________
'98 E300 turbodiesel
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-15-2007, 06:11 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 3,956
Quote:
Originally Posted by lupin..the..3rd View Post
I'm guessing a dealer would be most familiar with this riveting procedure vs. a body shop, no? If I want the local dealer to do it, is there a service bulletin number I can reference? I'm afraid I'll walk in there and ask for the "210 spring perch riveting job" and get a deer-in-the-headlights blank stare from the service guy.
In the WIS it is AR62.10-P-0006E The date on my version in 9/03. If you want a copy of it PM me and I can send you a pdf.

The more I research the spring perch issue though the less I fear it. Failure of the perch, even at highway speed, will not result in loss of control of the car. Much like suffering a blowout or a spring failure, the car will be harder to control as the corner will drop substantially but there is no reason to fear that the wheel will "come off" or the car becomes uncontrollable. Also, I have never seen a post or NHTSA report showing the failure occurring at highway speed...all have been during slow speed handling, like during parking. So, for me, it is a managable risk. My take on it is I will keep an eye on the perches looking for signs of rust or failure of the coating and I also bring the car to the dealer annually for my state safety inspection where I ask them to look them over too, and as long as they look OK after both of us examine them I will do nothing.
__________________
Marty D.

2013 C300 4Matic
1984 BMW 733i
2013 Lincoln MKz

Last edited by nhdoc; 09-15-2007 at 06:17 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-15-2007, 07:04 AM
Pete Geither's Avatar
Half Fast Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Western Pa.
Posts: 2,417
Quote:
Originally Posted by nhdoc View Post
In the WIS it is AR62.10-P-0006E The date on my version in 9/03. If you want a copy of it PM me and I can send you a pdf.

The more I research the spring perch issue though the less I fear it. Failure of the perch, even at highway speed, will not result in loss of control of the car. Much like suffering a blowout or a spring failure, the car will be harder to control as the corner will drop substantially but there is no reason to fear that the wheel will "come off" or the car becomes uncontrollable. Also, I have never seen a post or NHTSA report showing the failure occurring at highway speed...all have been during slow speed handling, like during parking. So, for me, it is a managable risk. My take on it is I will keep an eye on the perches looking for signs of rust or failure of the coating and I also bring the car to the dealer annually for my state safety inspection where I ask them to look them over too, and as long as they look OK after both of us examine them I will do nothing.
Good advice,,, I wouldn't go drilling or welding if it didn't positively need it.

__________________
95 SL500 Smoke Silver, Parchment 64K
07 E350 4matic Station Wagon White 34K
02 E320 4Matic Silver/grey 80K
05 F150 Silver 44K
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page