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Old 05-08-2008, 11:08 PM
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I would research it because if you can get a NEW long block from the dealer for like $7k that would be the way to go. New is always better than rebuilt, although with Metric its probably a wash they are not some unkown shop.

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Old 05-08-2008, 11:13 PM
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And I don't think the owner's manual was written by lawyers.
REALLY?!? Let's see, a manual for a $30,000 automobile, built and warrantied by a multi-billion dollar Corporation. Nah, they wouldn't involve their lawyers in writing disclaimers or literature for it. HAH! If you believe that I have a bridge I'm trying to sell - CHEAP - no, really, I do....


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And maybe make it a pop-up book for those with "an IQ under 70."
"OK, so you wanna' match brain pans?" (its a line from one of my favorite movies - Armageddon)
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:19 PM
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I would research it because if you can get a NEW long block from the dealer for like $7k that would be the way to go. New is always better than rebuilt, although with Metric its probably a wash they are not some unkown shop.
I agree, I need to talk to them again (it was just curiosity the last time) and find out exactly what they are selling. I also want to talk to my indy, he's been working on these things for a LONG time and is pretty good at finding parts. I'll have time to deal with this in about a week and a half, in the mean time it's parked.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:22 PM
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"OK, so you wanna' match brain pans?" (its a line from one of my favorite movies - Armageddon)
My favorite line is, "Why do I do this? Because the money's good, the scenery changes and they let me use explosives, okay?" That pretty much sums up my job criteria.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:15 AM
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Haha your "fix" just declared an enormous number of truckers and farmers as "retarded."
Apparently you haven't talked to many of them...
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:21 AM
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Apparently you haven't talked to many of them...
lol touché
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:18 AM
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"OK, so you wanna' match brain pans?" (its a line from one of my favorite movies - Armageddon)
Please re-read what I wrote. Are you saying that you have an IQ of less than 70?
If the shoe doesn't fit, move on. Have the maturity to recognize which battles to pursue.

You have to admit, the imagery is funny.


BTW, I'm sure it did go by the lawyers, but I think the engineers' word is heard. Example, is kerosene even legal to use as road fuel? I think there was a balance of what is CYA and what is correct fuel.
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:50 PM
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Please re-read what I wrote. Are you saying that you have an IQ of less than 70?
If the shoe doesn't fit, move on. Have the maturity to recognize which battles to pursue.
The way I read your "popup book" comment was that you were implying that anyone who would consider burning anything OTHER than #1, #2, or kerosene in their car must have an IQ below 70. Was that not what you meant?

If it is, then my reply is meant to say that I am one of those who is considering alternative fuels and I will compare IQs (match brain pans) with you or pretty much anyone else on the forum. I may not quite be a MENSA candidate, but I'm no doorknob either.

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BTW, I'm sure it did go by the lawyers, but I think the engineers' word is heard. Example, is kerosene even legal to use as road fuel? I think there was a balance of what is CYA and what is correct fuel.
I can pretty much guarantee you there isn't one word in the owners manual (originally written mostly by the engineers) that wasn't reviewed for legality and re-written as needed by the lawyers to CYA the company.

Kerosene is illegal as road fuel now, but was it at the time that the manual was written? I'd be willing to bet you it wasn't. If it were then by even suggesting it MB would be opening themselves up to all kinds of liability and lawsuits by anyone who got nailed for running it, not to mention the government going after them. Somehow I can't see a company that size opening themselves up to that kind of liability.

What it boils down to - and what was meant by the statement that the manual "was written by lawyers" is that the lawyers had the final say on every word in the manual - not the engineers. To believe otherwise is simply naive.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:25 PM
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Hey guys question. What about SPINDLE OIL ? I have chance to grab a 30 gallon drum of whatever it is. Will this safely burn in my 300D ? say 50/50 ?
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:39 PM
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nerys,

I don't know about 50-50 but a 5% to 10% mixture will be OK. 50% will cause too much smoke and may carbon up the cylinder head.

Spindle oil, as I know it, is lubricating oil for the spindles of machine tools.

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Old 05-10-2008, 10:46 PM
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hmmm 10% makes it a bit of a pain but still worth it since it will only cost me $20 in gas to go get it and in return save me $120 in diesel fuel :-)

Here is the full name "ZURNPREEM 10A SPIDLE OIL"
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:02 PM
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The way I read your "popup book" comment was that you were implying that anyone who would consider burning anything OTHER than #1, #2, or kerosene in their car must have an IQ below 70. Was that not what you meant?

If it is, then my reply is meant to say that I am one of those who is considering alternative fuels and I will compare IQs (match brain pans) with you or pretty much anyone else on the forum. I may not quite be a MENSA candidate, but I'm no doorknob either.


I can pretty much guarantee you there isn't one word in the owners manual (originally written mostly by the engineers) that wasn't reviewed for legality and re-written as needed by the lawyers to CYA the company.

Kerosene is illegal as road fuel now, but was it at the time that the manual was written? I'd be willing to bet you it wasn't. If it were then by even suggesting it MB would be opening themselves up to all kinds of liability and lawsuits by anyone who got nailed for running it, not to mention the government going after them. Somehow I can't see a company that size opening themselves up to that kind of liability.

What it boils down to - and what was meant by the statement that the manual "was written by lawyers" is that the lawyers had the final say on every word in the manual - not the engineers. To believe otherwise is simply naive.
Okay, last comment on the subject for you.
No, I do not think you need a pop-up book. I recognize your incredible intelligence, and believe that you should be able to read the owner's manual for what it states in simple english. Why you make inferences and come to your own clearly superior conclusions is obviously because you are much more intelligent than the engineers and lawyers at Mercedes Benz.

By the way, which bridge is it that you have ownership of?
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:20 PM
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doing a test using a 50-50 blend

I am currently running a test where a blend of 50% waste engine oil is first filtered via 100 micron filter and then put through a homebuilt centrifuge (using a simplecentrifuge.com bowl) then it is mixed with red diesel (50-50) before being used in an old Caterpillar wheel loader(Cat 950) as fuel. The loader has about 12,000 hours of use on it and has had about 1500 of those compiled using this blend. We do engine oil changes at 250 hour intervals. To date, we have not noticed any negative repercussions from this blend. Smoke level, filter changes, Power, and fuel consumption are all about the same. We are looking towards doing the same to other pieces of equipment.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:42 AM
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scootertrs,

Doesn't that 50/59 blend cause the engine to emit a lot of smoke?

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Old 07-07-2011, 11:16 PM
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waste engine oil and diesel

I have been running a 40% waste oil blend in my 83 240d for about 4 months now 3000 miles. No problems at all. I blend it with #2 heating oil that i have been getting from people who convert their heat sorce. Average purchase price for heating oil is $1 a gallon and all I have to do is pump it out of their tank and adding stabilizer because some of the fuel is a few years old. I filter to 5 micron and let sit in drum for at least a day before putting into my car. I drain a bit off the bottom to make sure there is no water. I have been collecting oil from neighbors and from craigslist. After all is done I am running on about .50 a gallon for fuel.

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