Yesterday I stopped for fuel and saw that a "Liberty" station was selling Biodiesel for $2.05 a gallon. This was convenient and only a few pennies more than the diesel across the street. There was no indication of whether this was B20 or B100, but I assumed B20 bacause of the price. I went ahead and filled up and then went in to ask the attendent whether it was 20% or 100% Biodiesel. He told me it was 2%.

Is that possible? Was he just misinformed? Could they call it Biodiesel?

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Alan Hamm
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Yes they can depending on what regulations there are on biodiesel labeling in your state. In CA I think yhey have to state the blend percentage. On the bright side you still get lubricity benifits at 2%.

Stephen

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B20 is about $2.50/gallon on the eastern shore, Last time I filled up with B100 it was about $3.60/gallon.

$2.05 would be about right for a B2 blend - but I agree the station is kind of misrepresenting it's product if its labeling B2 as "BioDiesel"

Around here all the pumps are labled B20 or B100 - never just "BioDiesel"

I had just never heard about B2. Is this popular? Sucked me in because the the Biodiesel advertisement. I think I am going to check with the company to be sure what it was.

Based on Price, you are correct that 2% makes more sense. But I was hoping for 20%

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Alan Hamm
'87 300SDL 277K Miles
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I've heard of such thin percentages. 2% is weak, but still beneficial. I just paid $2.09 for B20 in Denver.

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B2 is more than enough to achieve the lubricity benefits of biodiesel. It provides the highest gain in lubricity for the lowest cost. Some 'premium diesels' include concentrations as little as .15%, just for the lubricity benefit.

When you buy B2, its not good because you are buying biodiesel so much as its good because you are NOT buying extra sulfur and lubricating additives. Biodiesel lubricates great, and is a fuel in its own right. Sulfur and other additives lubricate, but are not fuels, and make bad things (like sulfur dioxide). Nearly all diesel fuel in Europe (I think) is now B2, for just that reason.

However, it is a bit annoying that the pump doesn't say what the blend is.. Less than 5% is usually just called an 'additive', its not usually called biodiesel. If someone is calling it Biodiesel at the pump, personally I'd expect it to be at least B20. You might mention this to the manager. Express your happiness that they are supporting biodiesel, but suggest that the sticker on the pump show the concentration, so people know what they are putting in their tanks.

Peace,
Sam

where was that exactly? im in denver too

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I stopped at a Liberty station on a recent trip, it was in Virginia, I think. I had the same thoughts, too cheap to be biodiesel.

I got biodiesel at several stations where the attendant was uninformed and uninterested in the product. They just don't know what they are missing.

Where was this station in Virginia? I live in Maryland and travel south to Richmond and Norfolk frequently. Would be good to know where I can get B2/20/100.

The B2 I found was in Harrisonburg, Va. I know there is Biodiesel available in Reedville, Va as well.

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Alan Hamm
'87 300SDL 277K Miles
'89 560 SL 68K Miles

OK, at the risk of not doing a search first....

What are the added "lubricity benefits" of biodiesel and what will they do to help my engine?

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Biodiesel is more of a lubricant than diesel, which is a very poor lubricant, especially without sulfur. This means less wear on your injection pump and injectors. You will notice less "clatter" as well.

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One was in Front Royal - $2.059/gal
Another was in Winchester, I think.

I got the impression that this is common at Liberty stores. If you see one check it out.