If what you guys are saying is there is no real difference between a ram air intake to a cold air, I can't agree with you but I do agree with the fact that it's not noticable enough for a small horsepower vehicle or worth the troubles to try and make one. But I can say that the intake I made does make a difference in certain areas and I still have to finish building it and do more testing but I've never had a vehicle that didn't gain something from a high flowing intake over a stock setup. I promise I'll put some pictures up soon.