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Old 06-29-2016, 08:56 AM
Adriel Adriel is offline
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Originally Posted by ROLLGUY View Post
As far as I know, the only difference is the low side (suction) hose going into the cabin. On the CA model, it is shorter, and the pipe going across the front of the engine is straight, and not curved like the Federal. The rest of the plumbing is identical to the Federal. The compressor manifold assembly is the same for all of the 616/617 engines with the R4. Klima uses adaptor fittings to use the factory hose assemblies, so all the factory hoses remain. I personally don't think it is a good idea to use 25+ year old hoses, especially when using r134a. That is why I designed my kit to use new hoses routed differently. In the end, the Klima kit is more costly, all things considered. I am not saying it is a bad design (other than using old hoses), I just have not had any experience with one.
Rich, thank you so very much for a reply!

I looked through your A/C thread, and the Federal does look different. I can't fathom wagen being different, right? So, I attached what I have in the way of high side (suction) hose. Know high side because of the part and says suction on both compressors.

Also from the pictures, looks like the Federal has both the high side and the low side service ports on the front of the engine?

My low side is up on the front on the strait hard line, but the high side as you can see is under the turbocharger. When Moe has serviced the Mercedes, becomes a trick getting the hose not to be in danger and also we have to run without the air cleaner, which in California may work, but not here in the desert.

Actually, Klima as I said replaces the high side (suction) hose. Since never seen a California model, they send the hose uncrimped. Annoys me that their website doesn't inform on of this.

Why not use the original hoses if they don't leak? Because they don't have barrier fittings due to being R12 hoses? As it is, can't afford further expense, not even my suppliments that keep me out of the hospital. Supposedly Klima refund the $35 once I send back the hose that doesn't fit.

How more expensive? Your brackets are $500, right? I paid less than $300 and got the hose. Paid $180 for the compressor, but bet you have the ones you sell have the wiring already modified.

What I do like about how you did your hoses is there is no "manifold" for the parallel flow condenser. I don't like having all these connections, even stock has more than my liking. I am sorely tempted to have you make up a set of hoses, but considering what happened last time, leery. If was in the area, that wouldn't be the case.

Ember (myS.D.) is concerned about me getting up at this odd hour and just for fun attached the picture; first time taking the ball to bed. Cute how her toys are comfort like a child's blanket or thumb.
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