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Old 06-29-2009, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Nate Stanley View Post
OK guys, troubleshooting time. THis all started when I got a knocking / rapping sound on the way home from work one day almost 2 years ago.

I was doing a compression test when I lost the O ring on the tester's quick release, NOW- I got another tester, values were:
#1 395
#2 385
#3 200
#4 365
#5 360

The noise does not get deeper with increased engine speed.

Oil pressure is fine, though I believe a malfunctioning gauge sender gave me a false positive and I may have run the engine low on oil for a short time. Once I heard the noise, I limped to an auto parts store and topped off the crankcase. It was at least 3 qts low. This engine does have a lot of blowby.
SOOOO,
I drained the oil today and pulled the pan. I found:

1) the O ring from the compression tester
2) some tiny bits of what appear to be plastic or gasket cement
3) No, repeat, NO bearing fragments or metal debris of any kind. \

I cut apart the oil filter, found the usual sticks and cotton waste in the upper section, and some tiny metallic fragments, no more than .010" -.020" in size in the lower section. Total qty may have been 50-70 evenly distributed thru the pleated filter.

I have yet to yank the head, but will do so soon. In trying to rule out the lower end bearings, I have 2 questions:

1) Is that sort of debris in the oil filter normal for a high mileage engine?

and

2)has anyone ever lost a rod bearing or main bearing and NOT had any metal debris in the oil pan?

Any insight based on experience here will be most welcome.


Thanks and best regards,
Unfortunately you most likely dumped the Oil drained from the pan. Otherwise, after finding metal fragments in the oil filter I think an Oil Analysis would have been helpful.

I believe the Analysis might tell you for sure. But, I do not know if you can still take a sample if it is dumped into a drain pan. I know my draing pan is a nasty mess.
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